Washington's 100 highest, any debate?

[CascadeClimber]

From the Mutineers:

 

Rank Peak Name Height

1 Mount Rainier 14410

2 Mount Adams 12276

3 Little Tahoma 11138

4 Mount Baker 10781

5 Glacier Peak 10520+

6 Bonanza Peak 9511

7 Mount Stuart 9415

8 Mount Fernow 9249

9 Mount Goode 9200+

10 Mount Shuksan 9131

11 Buckner Mountain 9112

12 Seven-Fingered Jack 9100

13 Mount Logan 9087

14 Jack Mountain 9066

15 Mount Maude 9040+

16 Mount Spickard 8979

17 Black Peak 8970

18 Mount Redoubt 8969

19 Copper Peak 8964

20 North Gardner Mountain 8956

21 Dome Peak 8920+

22 Gardner Mountain 8898

23 Boston Peak 8894

24 Silver Star Mountain 8876

25 Eldorado Peak 8868

26 Dragontail Peak 8840+

27 Forbidden Peak 8815

28 Mesahchie Peak 8795

29 Oval Peak 8795

30 Fortress Mountain 8760+

31 Mount Lago 8745

32 Robinson Mountain 8726

33 Colchuck Peak 8705

34 Star Peak 8690

35 Remmel Mountain 8685

36 Katsuk Peak 8680+

37 Sahale Peak 8680+

38 Cannon Mountain 8638

39 Mount Custer# 8630

40 Ptarmigan Peak 8614

41 Sherpa Peak 8605

42 Clark Mountain 8602

43 Cathedral Peak 8601

44 Kimtah (Gendarmes#) Peak 8600+

45 Mount Carru 8595

46 Monument Peak 8592

47 Cardinal Peak 8590

48 Osceola Peak 8587

49 Raven Ridge 8580e

50 Buck Mountain 8528+

51 Storm King 8520+

52 Enchantment Peak 8520e

53 Reynolds Peak 8512

54 Primus Peak 8508

55 Dark Peak 8504

56 Mox Peaks (SE Twin Spire#) 8504

57 Cashmere Mountain 8501

58 Martin Peak 8500+

59 Klawatti Peak 8485

60 Horseshoe Peak 8480+

61 Mount Rahm 8480+

62 Big Craggy Peak 8470

63 Hoodoo Peak 8464

64 Lost Peak 8464

65 Chiwawa Peak 8459

66 Argonaut Peak 8453

67 Tower Mountain 8444

68 Dorado Needle 8440+

69 Mount Bigelow 8440+

70 Little Annapurna 8440+

71 Sinister Peak 8440+

72 Emerald Peak 8422

73 Dumbell Mountain 8421

74 NE Dumbell Mountain# 8415

75 Mox Peak (NW Twin Spire#) 8407

76 Saska Peak 8404

77 Azurite Peak 8400+

78 Luahna Peak 8400+

79 Pinnacle Mountain 8400+

80 Blackcap Mountain 8397

81 Courtney Peak 8392

82 South Spectacle Butte 8392

83 Martin Peak 8375

84 Lake Mountain 8371

85 Golden Horn 8366

86 West Craggy Peak 8366

87 Mt St Helens (#6 before 1980 eruption) 8365

88 McClellan Peak 8364

89 Devore Peak 8360+

90 Amphitheater Mountain 8358

91 Snowfield Peak 8347

92 Austera Peak 8334

93 Windy Peak 8333m

94 Cosho Peak 8332

95 Big Snagtooth 8330+

96 Mount Formidable 8325

97 Abernathy Peak 8321

98 Switchback (Cooney#) Mountain 8321

99 Tupshin Peak 8320+

100 Mount Flora 8320

 

http://www.mountaineers.org/main/peaks.html

 

[Stefan]

Where is Lincoln?

[G-spotter]

Where is Lincoln?

 

Next to Baker and Colfax

[Off_White]

*sigh* Yet another thread that would benefit from Mr. Prominence himself, HRH Paul Klenke.

[Alpine_Tom]

"Any debate?" On this site? You could start a debate on whether Rainier is really a mountain!

 

The list the Mountaineers use is called the "Bulger Top 100"

An alternative list appears here:

http://www.summitroutes.com/peaks.html

 

This list leaves off, for instance, Sahali Peak, because it has less than 400' of "clean prominence."

 

 

[klenke]

*sigh* Yet another thread that would benefit from Mr. Prominence himself, HRH Paul Klenke.

The definitive presentation of this list is available HERE (shameless self promotion ).

 

A special congratulations goes to Silas Wild after his successful completion of the Top 100 by 400 feet of prominence last Saturday on Sherman Peak (on Mt. Baker). He is only the second person to finish that particular version of the list (Dr. Roper in 1991 was the other).

 

Here is the report of Silas' adventure on TAY and

is Silas in his moment of glory.

 

 

Edited June 15, 2007 by klenke

[philfort]

Sweet, only 86 left to go...

[dberdinka]

The reason it's not on that particular list boils down to a rather contrived set of rules, basically one rule claims any named peak can be included regardless of prominence (hence things like Horseshoe Tower, a completely obscure chossy tower) and another rule stating that subsummits of volcanoes with less than 800' prominence cannot be included. Supposedly this second rule was included to specifically exclude Lincoln because it's harder and scarier that certain peak baggers wanted to try. (Lincoln has something like 780' of prominence)

 

 

I think John Roper has a pretty good description of why it is and isn't on top 100 lists over at rhinoclimbs

 

 

If you take a good look at Lincoln from Grouse Ridge or the Twin Sisters it would be pretty hard to claim that it doesn't qualify as it's own seperate peak!

 

And who here has climbed it!?

 

[Off_White]

Well, it would be sort of silly to have the three summits of Rainier take the top three slots and bump something like Tupshin off the list. List construction does involve a degree of arbitrary rule creation, but knocking off any version of that list represents a lot of adventure and days out in the mountains.

 

Paul, thanks for dropping by!

 

[pms]

this is an interesting way to think about these big dudes http://www.rhinoclimbs.com/Top100xP400ProminenceSort.htm

[Off_White]

Yeah, that way of sorting kicks Little Tahoma from #3 to #64, and puts Stuart towards the top while pushing Bonanza to the middle of the pack.

[olyclimber]

7k8uBqP0OOA

 

[kix]

 

A special congratulations goes to Silas Wild after his successful completion of the Top 100 by 400 feet of prominence last Saturday on Sherman Peak (on Mt. Baker). He is only the third person to finish that particular version of the list (Dr. Roper in 1991 and Mr. Goodman in 2003 were the other two).

 

 

 

 

proud.

 

I should ask them if they know where to find some boulders.

[ivan]

7k8uBqP0OOA

 

i'd like to have that 1:14 of my life back now, please.

 

klenke stoke!

[kevbone]

Ah....god ....are we there yet?

[Alpine_Tom]

this is an interesting way to think about these big dudes http://www.rhinoclimbs.com/Top100xP400ProminenceSort.htm

This is a pretty interesting list. But it raises another question -- although Rainier has 13210' of prominence, no one (or very few) climb that distance. (Is the park entrance that low?) And most of the mountains on the bottom 2/3 of the list you climb much more than the amount of prominence.

So, we need a list sorted by the altitude you climb. That'd put Whitehorse pretty high up on the list, I'd think.

[tradclimbguy]

Too much walking for me. Back to the couch I go!

[Toast]

He's back!

[John_Scurlock]

He's back!

 

Ah yes, the end of the Great Silence, foretold by the prophets...

 

Tell us O Great Klenke, where have you travelled & what wonderful things have you seen? It will be a little livelier with you around. I for one am glad to see it happen.

 

and you won the bet, no???

[Tom_Sjolseth]

I, too, would like to extend my congratulations to Silas for finishing the T100P400. WILD!

 

Oh, and welcome back Mr. K.

[Lowell_Skoog]

I haven't been caught by the 100-highest bug yet, but if I was I'd be tempted to use a different list. The 1983-1990 Mountaineer Annual had a list of peaks with 1000 or more feet of prominence. I like that list better. It includes Luna and Fury in the Pickets, Mt Olympus in the Olympics, and a lot of other peaks that I think of as the highest in each section of the state.

 

The choice of lists has probably been beaten to death by the people who are into this stuff. I'm not aware of the reasons for choosing the 400-foot list. But I thought I'd just throw my two cents in.

[Pencil_Pusher]

Nice pun, Tom. Ditto the congrats to Silas.

[wayne]

Lowell, Do you have a link to that list?

[Lowell_Skoog]

Lowell, Do you have a link to that list?

 

The list is probably out on the web somewhere, but I don't have a link to it. Instead, I scanned the pages out of the 1983-1990 Mountaineer Annual that contain the 1000-foot list:

 

 

[jhamaker]

So, what pomminence rule was used for the Mountaineers 1000' prominence list? 1mi? 5mi? 25mi from the summit?

 

We've got some ridges that go on for miles!