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satori replied to satori's topic in The Yard Sale
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[TR] Mt Hood - Elliot Cirque, The Raven - FA 05/02/2021
zaworotiuk replied to ACosta's topic in Oregon Cascades
Nope, not me! - Last week
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My $0.02 having had similar questions in the past is to make sure you are on the same page as your partner and that you are both willing to have open and honest communication about your risk tolerance and how things are looking throughout the day. I have been in the mountains with folks who are so attached to achieving the objective that they fail to observe important things around them or are unwilling to discuss them in fear of 'having to bail" - typically conditions that are getting sketchy. I'm not all THAT experienced but in my view the mountains will always be there and I want to be able to keep coming back for a long time. If you keep coming back you will continue build more and more experience. It's a slow process (for me at least) but there are other places to go pedal to the metal where you aren't so far out there if something goes awry. Sounds like you two are pretty well matched to get out and have a good time i.e. there isn't a massive disparity in abilities. South side of hood is always a good way to go like others have said - Timberline lodge is pretty high which makes things easier and there are a variety of different routes to access from there. Also, the Alpine Mentors content is high quality. Not 100% certain I am on topic here, so forgive me if I'm not.
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May is not a great time for rock yet; I would doubt you can get into Forbidden easily either. Weather is also less stable this time of year so that would dictate my climbs. If N Ridge of Baker is a goal I would do a steep snow climb, then a steep snow with glacier climb, then that one. You could do all those on/around Baker. That said, weather could just be junk too so you might do the first two on Hood or another volcano. For alpine rock I would look at the Stuart Range as access can be better this time of year and it will be drier than N Cascades (still a hike).
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[TR] Mt Hood - Elliot Cirque, The Raven - FA 05/02/2021
nonbasketless replied to ACosta's topic in Oregon Cascades
Daaaang! That crux pic of you I bet that normally delicate rock was very very firm. -
[TR] Mt Hood - Elliot Cirque, The Raven - FA 05/02/2021
Bronco replied to ACosta's topic in Oregon Cascades
This is a badass photo! -
[TR] Mt Hood - Elliot Cirque, The Raven - FA 05/02/2021
ivan replied to ACosta's topic in Oregon Cascades
Is that the Matt who got hurt on Stuart a couple years ago? -
south side of hood seems right for what you're looking for - or the cooper spur on the north side if you want it to be a little cooler (and use them skis)
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Gotcha. I am not familiar w the EU alpine grading system (just looked it up). We have some excellent local climbing guides, though Beckey is still a great resource. Mountain Project will have lots of info. You should find something awesome. Tip: weather can be unstable through early July, so it's usually a good plan to have two or more objectives in different zones in mind and choose one at the last minute based on conditions. Have fun!
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Seems there might have been some confusion about what I was asking for. I've edited the original post to clarify. Might make the last post come off a bit like a non-sequitur. Sorry.
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Regarding skills, there are lots of great videos and books. One amazing series that is geared toward more experienced climbers but has mental aspects that apply to everyone is Alpne Mentors w Steve House, You can also learn a lot from experienced partners, but guides have many years of training that you're not going to get reading the internet or climbing with your friends. Hiring one can be a great way to climb a classic and have both you and your partner learn a ton along the way (I'm not a guide BTW). There are also local courses. It sounds like you're pretty experienced already, so you can just go. You'll naturally learn from a network of partners you build over time, like many of us old guys did. So you want ski mountaineering? Liberty Ridge is a prize, but timing is everything to avoid objective hazards. We usually have a thread on it here. Emmons is a great early season line, mostly an endless 30 degree walk in crampons. It's the typical ski descent for LR. Turns all year may be a great place to go for more skiing-focused outings. If you've done back country rock up to 5.8+ and roadside ice to 4+ you should be good to go on lots of PNW classics. End of May is pretty early, but you might be good on some volcanoes then. It all depends on the storm cycle and temps as we get closer. Alpine rock usually isn't dry unless it gets several days of sun, but there are a few exceptions. Look things up on mountan project AND read TRs on this site to get a lot more climbing ideas and conditions beta. One simple way to learn the alpine elements is to go out scrambling on snow and rock in the alpine. Increase the difficulty over time. Learn to read the conditions and see how they evolve in different weather cycles. Go get a Beckey Guide (or three) and read it and start going on trips! You'll come to know Fred and our local climbs and history. Be safe and have fun!
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Looking for tips from more experienced climbers on introducing inexperienced people to alpine climbing in the PNW, or just alpine mentoring more generally. Both wisdom and ideas on local routes that are useful resources. If any of yall are guides would especially love your feedback. I have enough experience to feel confident with peers on moderate alpine terrain. I'm looking to take an inexperienced partner into the alpine though. I'm expecting some hiccups with gear selection, headgame, etc, but also miscalibration of my own expectations of his performance, and am here fishing for thoughts that might whittle down the unknown unknown element a bit if possible. I'm also concerned about solo decision making, since the usual paradigm is consensus decision making among peers to help catch mistakes early (same way you have your partner check your knots). Guides seem to have some secret for getting around the usual human foibles of this scenario though, and decision making is complicated hence why I'm asking about "wisdom". Let me put this into a more concrete context. I'm an amateur climber coming out to the PNW for my first time end of May for a bit over a week. I've been alpine climbing for six years, mostly in Colorado and Chamonix, but various other places too. With peers of equal ability I tend to succeed on grade IV/D+ rock, ice or mixed and shoot higher. My partner for this trip however is not experienced, and I would be introducing him to alpine climbing during this trip. We've cragged together plenty over the last two years, including backcountry multipitch rock to 5.8, III and roadside ice to 4+, III in Northern New England (where I live now), and on which he leads easier pitches (rock) or follows (ice) proficiently, but he's still inexperienced leading trad rock and is on the cusp of his first WI leads. Would like to use the trip to get his feet wet on something alpine without being reckless, particularly since he's moving to Seattle and will have plenty of opportunities to build on it. Could be rock, mixed or mountaineering, but right now my thought is to look for III/AD+ volcano routes like maybe the N Ridge of Baker or Emmons Glacier on Rainier, with maybe the promise of some skiing on the way down. Route suggestions or criticism are welcome though. Different areas tend to have their own established routes that climbers will get on as part of a progression to ease into alpine climbing. For instance in Chamonix it might be the Cosmiques Arete for classic mixed or the Papillon Ridge for rock. In Colorado it might be the North Ridge of Spearhead or Marthas. I could list off a series of other routes in each area that are frequently on the list that follow these, are classic, and reasonable stepping stones. I don't know the PNW scene though, nor do I know the season, so any useful beta on routes that are useful resources for coaching novice alpine climbers would also be useful. My read on the N Ridge of Baker is that it might be like an appropriate 3rd mountaineering route, Emmons might be a good first or second. Something like West Ridge of Forbidden might be a good first alpine rock route. But these things are hard to judge from a distance, and I'm sure there are plenty of routes I don't know about.
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Awesome info! Thank you @bedellympian finding info like this outside the Oregon High book has been challenging.
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You don't say what grade range you are comfortable with. However, I believe the highest concentration of "moderate" routes for a day, with no more than a single rack and 60m rope, is at The Bend.
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[TR] Dhaulagiri - Life and Death on the 7th tallest peak in the world - Normal Route 05/20/2018
Rad replied to Kushrocks's topic in The rest of the US and International.
Wow! Thanks so much for posting. So much of big mountain climbing has nothing to do with climbing. Reminds me old war strategists who knew that the logistics of housing and feeding your troops was the key to winning, perhaps even more than the actual fighting. As someone who's trekked in Nepal (Kangchenjunga region), I can empathize with many of the challenges in the first part of your story. -
Its going to be warm AF any day with sun. I would go out the night before and camp just outside the cirque. Scope the route that night so you can top out as sun hits. 9 o'clock faces east, 11 o'clock faces SE, High Noon faces south. First two are straightforward snow climbs (cornice topout is possible but should be small this time of year), High Noon is capped with low 5th rock for a pitch or two. Honestly, I would recommend this as an early winter zone more than a spring zone, its just too warm this late in the season.
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Good stuff, if you think you can get as far north as Bellingham I say lets roll. I don't live in WA but when I am there I usually solo, if I could go with somebody I could advance in glacier travel. Summer objectives. I will have a very basic rack with ice axe and crampons. I'm waiting to see if anybody else is going to invest in 30m single tested half rope/harness/carabiners, with a screw and a picket or 2. I have self rescue and 3:1/5:1 z pulley figured out as well. Highly interested in crossing from Colonial to Snowfield for example. I will be travelling without a vehicle, kind of a pain, but if you are willing to do the same I can send you the info I've come up with. I just don't feel like driving back into the city to drop a rental car back off. I'll shoot you an email or text closer to time.
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[TR] Dhaulagiri - Life and Death on the 7th tallest peak in the world - Normal Route 05/20/2018
nonbasketless replied to Kushrocks's topic in The rest of the US and International.
That pic with the tent on the platform, yeesh!!! I have the same one (FirstLight) and even on Hood I get spooked when it flaps in the wind. -
Jack Mountain Nohokomeen Headwall in April
Nick Magill replied to Nick Magill's topic in Climbing Partners
We pushed it back in favor of a couple other climbs this April. We are headed to Denali this weekend but will be back by June, so we are hoping Noho will still be in season by then. If not we'll give the South Face a shot in August. Best of luck on your May attempt! If June rolls around and you guys haven't gone yet you're welcome to join us -
[TR] Dhaulagiri - Life and Death on the 7th tallest peak in the world - Normal Route 05/20/2018
olyclimber replied to Kushrocks's topic in The rest of the US and International.
Wow! Thank you for sharing! What a story! -
[TR] Dhaulagiri - Life and Death on the 7th tallest peak in the world - Normal Route 05/20/2018
ryaneames replied to Kushrocks's topic in The rest of the US and International.
Amazing Post! -
this is all an excellent example of something, i'm just not sure what
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ya can't take from me what was never mine man, fucking-off in a zoom staff meeting just doesn't have the quite same je ne sais quoi...
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Hey All First-time poster here. I'm looking at doing a pre-permit climb of Broken Top from the Todd Lake approach to the south side. Thinking about the 9 o'clock couloir or the south face gully. Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
