layton Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 and according to Mr Frieh, Steck is out of shape. wish i was that out of shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 So Messner is a God then? Do you pray to him before you climb? Â I've read a lot of Messner's writing and watched his films. He is very accomplished. I didn't say he's a wanker I said he's a poser. He was at the right place at the right time, and provided with the genes to do the job. There's a lot of people out there that given the same circumstances could accomplish the same thing. Â Kukuczka totally kicked his ass, as far as difficulty and time frame. Â Messner climbed the Eiger in 10 hours. Steck climbed the Eiger in 2.5 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZimZam Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Messner's got his own couloir. Does Ueli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Superman would totally crush Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Superman would totally crush Batman. Â But they would both sound the same if you used their rookie cards in your bike spokes to make a motor noise. Â LOLZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 don't be stupid. this is a serious conversation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 "I didn't say he's wanker, I said he's a poser" Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckaroo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Messner and Kukuczka (and Steck, for that matter) are absolute deities of the climbing world.  THE MESSNER'S PRAYER  Our Messner, which art on the summit.  Hallowed be thy name  Thy Summit come.  Thy climb be done, at the base  As it is on the headwall.  Give us this rope and rack of gear.  And forgive us our hangdogging  As we forgive those who helicopter in.  And lead us not onto fractured cornices  And deliver us from loose death blocks.  For thine is the 8000'der  The book deals, and the movies,  For ever and ever  Belay ON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 and according to Mr Frieh, Steck is out of shape. wish i was that out of shape  Hey dumbass: go back and reread the post. The Swiss Federal Institute of Sports Magglingen (not me) said he was out of shape... which turns out was correct. He worked with them for over a year and was able to shave over an hour off his previous best time on the Eiger. 3 hours 54 minutes in 2007 to 2 hours 47 minutes in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_H Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The Swiss Federal Institute of Sports Magglingen  I hear their football team sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Now why is it I should give a rats ass whether Messner, Kukuczka, Steck, or whoever is the best climber in the known universe? Â [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfinley Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 My favorite Messner vid. [video:youtube]D_pwYa58PRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric K Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 If we are going to start debating who is the best ever, may I be so bold as to say Becky. I can't think of anyone who has more first ascents. Even though he doesn't have the 8000m tick list his own list is pretty impressive even by today's standards. Â Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_H Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Who's Becky? Is she hawt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Beckey's probably pinched Becky's ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 lol, reminds me of a little boy insisting that nobody could ever beat his favorite pitcher. Do you have trading cards? Let's talk about "stats" Â i used to have a Colin Haley rookie card. Too bad I taped it to my bike spokes to make a motor noise. Â Â This is my favorite post of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layton Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 and according to Mr Frieh, Steck is out of shape. wish i was that out of shape  Hey dumbass: go back and reread the post. The Swiss Federal Institute of Sports Magglingen (not me) said he was out of shape... which turns out was correct. He worked with them for over a year and was able to shave over an hour off his previous best time on the Eiger. 3 hours 54 minutes in 2007 to 2 hours 47 minutes in 2008.  John, you know I don't actually fully read anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genepires Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I am not layton, either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 i have way to little common sense and too many teeth to be considered Layton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Messner is an overhyped climber? Not! If anything, many of his ascents were not hyped or broadcast at all, and he was breaking new ground when everyone said it was IMPOSSIBLE to do what he did. yeah, Uli is a fast climber but I don't see him doing new routes on the North face of Everest or K2. (Yet). Kukuczka was also good, but he didn't make it. Messner is still here, that says allot about the man. Messner is here, because as soon as the nonsense of collecting all 14 x 8000m peaks was over he never climbed again in the big mountains. His return was rather short lived and pathetic. Kukuczka was way more visionary and died trying one of hardest faces on big peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 somebody make it stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raindawg Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 This isn't even a discussion if you don't include BIG LOU! Â [img:center]http://cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/504/HRH_Lou.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 if you can find it, Kuckuzkas book about climbing the 8000 meter peaks is a amazing. the guy was unbelievably driven and hard core yet very modest and he comes across as a guy you would like to have a drink with(or finish the bottle!)sad loss to the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassgowkiss Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 by the way, the mentioned person's name was not Kuckuzka, but Kukuczka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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