Dru Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 so no i am a red head with short hair. change is good Molly the Wanker Sprayer Quote
sobo Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 minx asked: Alpine K-- does this mean there's no more raptor closures? are they done rapting for the season? AlpineK replied: I didn't see any signs about raptor closures...so I guess they're done or we didn't go where they're still in effect. Minx, et al: Tim Pond Wall, Royal Columns, Tieton Wall, and The Bendwere closed until April 1. They are all now open. The bad news is that we didn't get any "takers" on the eaglets. So, climb on! Quote
dmarch Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 practiced face planting down the muir snowfield in a whiteout on sat and got my fill of yummy corn at alpental on sunday. Quote
JayB Posted April 5, 2005 Author Posted April 5, 2005 Just gotta say - Jesus - enough with the NOLSe bashing. I ran into the guy in person at the last Smithfest and thought he was a good guy. I suspect most of the bashers would feel the same way if they met him in person instead of online. NOLSe. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 I'm sure he is cool in person, but he has made an ass of himself on this website few times. Not that he is the first to do that, but you ask and you receive....then you ask again, and you get it again. Never met him, but he seems to be a great guy with an ego he stuggles to keep in check (at least with his online persona). We all have our own little problems. Quote
John Frieh Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 (edited) I'm sure he is cool in person, but he has made an ass of himself on this website few times. Could you be more specific Olyclimber? I'd be interested in understanding which specific instances (links would be best) you felt my behavior was conducted in a manner that led you to conclude I am an ass… especially when one considers what is considered common courtesy or decency on this page. Additionally: why don't you use the ignore user feature if you dislike the slant in my posts so much? Edited April 5, 2005 by NOLSe Quote
olyclimber Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 I'm sure he is cool in person, but he has made an ass of himself on this website few times. Could you be more specific Olyclimber? I'd be interested in understanding which specific instances (links would be best) you felt my behavior was conducted in a manner that led you to conclude I am an ass… especially when one considers what is considered common courtesy or decency on this page. Additionally: why don't you use the ignore user feature if you dislike the slant in my posts so much? Since you seem to have a habit of deleting your all your posts after the fact, this would be hard. But....I don't think that you're an ass (anymore than I am). There is a difference between making an ass of yourself occasionally, and being a straight up asshole. I'm sure you know the difference. I don't think you're that latter, I think you just don't have the gift of expressing yourself too well online. I would also like to point out that I twice said positive things in my post above. Rather than continue this drama here, I would be glad to meet you in person to discuss. As for ignoring you? I wouldn't miss your posts for the world! Quote
John Frieh Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 So just because I have a different opinion on windshirts then the rest of you that makes me an ass? Quote
rbw1966 Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 I don't think its the difference in opinion that gets everyone so worked up but rather the tone of how you present that different opinion. You come across in the written form as a bit pompous. I've met you in person and from our limited interaction I would say that what comes across as pompous on here is really a combination of your sense of humor and genuine sincerity at wanting to be helpful. You seem like a nice guy. Maybe instead of feeding the flames you should just ignore the flamers. I, for one, think the NOLSe bashing (while entertaining at times) is getting pretty tired. Quote
rbw1966 Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 And as for the subject of this thread, I went to the John Day area and did some exploring around the fossil beds and Painted Hills, then camped out in the rain. In spite of being born in Oregon this was my first trip in that area and it was magnificent. Wildflowers in bloom, contrasting beautifully with the ruggedness of the terrain. I may take up kayaking just so I can float through there. Quote
John Frieh Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 You seem like a nice guy. Maybe instead of feeding the flames you should just ignore the flamers. Thanks for the insight. I have attempted to ignore the flamers for some time now but when they spray on absolutely every thing you post (from requests for climbing partners for the weekend to giving a recommendation on mtnhigh as a landlord) it makes it difficult to ignore. Quote
specialed Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 You come across in the written form as a bit pompous. To put it mildly. However, I tentatively agree that the shelf life for such gratuitous flaming has perhaps expired. Though it is important to get as much mileage out of these things as possible, of course. Quote
Dru Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 It's only fun to poke someone when they flinch When they stop flinching, poking gets boring When they start rubbing up against your finger and moaning, however... Quote
specialed Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 Even if the sheep consents, Dru, its still illegal. Quote
kurthicks Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 smitty. first time back in awhile. the whole place was taken over by mazamas and cc.com'ers. funguy, brock, tex, ursa eagle, ireneo. mazamas were everywhere but had nothing but good experiences with them this weekend. You should have seen them at Cinnamon Slab. "This is such a great stance"... NYC007 and I were there too. I've got a couple pics that might end up on here later. Quote
RuMR Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 Just gotta say - Jesus - enough with the NOLSe bashing. I ran into the guy in person at the last Smithfest and thought he was a good guy. I suspect most of the bashers would feel the same way if they met him in person instead of online. NOLSe. ahhh...this is all just funnin'...he's ok...AND he has a knack for setting folks off... Quote
Winter Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 smitty. first time back in awhile. the whole place was taken over by mazamas and cc.com'ers. funguy, brock, tex, ursa eagle, ireneo. mazamas were everywhere but had nothing but good experiences with them this weekend. You should have seen them at Cinnamon Slab. "This is such a great stance"... NYC007 and I were there too. I've got a couple pics that might end up on here later. I know I know, we got shut down on Karate Crack, b/c someone was taking a bit too long to get on Cinnamon Slab and we didn't want to cause any headaches. Everyone starts somewhere. They were all nice and reasonable the whole weekend apart from the intermittent episodes of gaperdom, and we've all been there. Quote
AlpineK Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 NOLSe, What often happens here to you is much like what happens when sharks smell blood in the water. You become the focus of a feeding frenzy. My advice is to follow one of 3 courses of action: One is to walk away. This can be hard to do, but it is the easiest thing to do if you don't have the temperment for the next 2. The next strategy is summed up by the best defence is a good offence. Go on the attack; don't try and be logical just go for the throat. This strategy is most effective if you can develope allies. A hint...you don't have to always get along with your allies. The third strategy is to deflect the attack. This is often the the most subtle one to pull off; so you may want to forget it till you've mastered #2. If you'd like advanced training I suggest spending a weekend with CrazyJZ, Rat, and a pallet of beer. At the end of the weekend you will either be strong enough to take the abuse head on or need to spend time in a mental ward. Anyhow for my part I'm going to try and walk away from bashing you; you're just too easy to get to. You're enthusiastic about climbing, which means you've got some big positive points in my book. Quote
DirtyHarry Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 How tender. I'm so touched I'm going to go put my favorite Barbara Strysand record on the turtable right now. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 I'm going to disco my way to the post office! Quote
kurthicks Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 i got shut down on Karate because I suck, but then we went and did the first pitch of Lion's Chair. sketchy gear on that. Quote
Alex Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 ...the first pitch of Lion's Chair. sketchy gear on that... last time i did lions chair, it had bolts at the cruxes Quote
Winter Posted April 5, 2005 Posted April 5, 2005 KCrack spanks you so Lion's Chair looked like a good idea? Is the gear way sketchier then Pack Animal D? Can you focus on climbing with all the prana tops at the base of magic line? Quote
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