Alasdair Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 This is a photo of a top rope anchor I saw in Leavenworth this weekend. This was built for use by one of our favorite local climbing clubs. It was being used by them entire day. Granted it was a back up for another anchor, but I could have dislodged both of these chockstones with a light kick. There is no way this should have been used as a part of any anchor system. Even as a back up. If you are going to be TEACHING climbing classes please make sure your teachers are competent. If this anchor had been weighted it would have sent one or maybe both of these blocks down on the group below. Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Ya seriously, thats hard to swallow. While chockstones can be bomber, these don't look like it. Quote
kukuzka1 Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 The photo dose not show how well the rock is wedged in but as you say if you could kick it and it would fall apart then lets hope the main anchor was bomber Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Sounds like it might have been for illustrative purposes. But still sounds dangerous. Quote
Gym Wickedwire Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 When you round Mountie corner you're supposed to honk and wave, not stop and climb. Quote
mountainmatt Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I don't know, the first stone looks bomber to me. Perhaps the danger is in the redundancy of slinging a second stone. Quote
JoshK Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Looks like they were taking instruction from my upcoming book "Building Anchors for People You Don't Like". Quote
DPS Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Looks like they were taking instruction from my upcoming book "Building Anchors for People You Don't Like". Quote
Alasdair Posted April 19, 2010 Author Posted April 19, 2010 Ok here is another one. When ever I see an anchor that is questionable I shoot a photo. This next one was not seen this weekend, it was seen somewhere on the east coast. Quote
billbob Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 I cannot not say this following because I had a shitty day: Serious Part- Damn shame these anchors don't conform to your expectations, lad. One can only imagine the stories behind them. Bitingly Sarcastic Part- It is very reassuring to know that certain, more discriminating climbers would never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever and regardless of conditions present, build anything as dangerous as these anchors. Thanks for bringing this to the immediate attention of all climbers on this forum. I certainly and most emphatically hope that I speak for the majority of climbers here in expressing our sincere and profound gratitude while we look forward to your further investigative reports on the subject matter. Seriously, Bill Quote
genepires Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 I have big expectations of my partners and besides draggin me up hard shit, I expect that they make damn good anchors. If they made a anchor like the slung pebbles shown, I would not climb with them. thanks for sharing and I hope this thread makes someone who is making shitty anchors think twice about it. Damn Billbob, why the hate? Quote
ivan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 my fav-o-rite-ist anchor i ever built (and not too far from mountie land neither) Quote
Rad Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 chicken heads rock, but that middle one is not perky enough to keep anything on board. Quote
genepires Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 it is a backup and therefore can be shitty. Quote
ivan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 i like that i left the locker unlocked on the primary head Quote
rocketparrotlet Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 When taking the basic climbing course, I remember that we were required to anchor everything at the bottom of the climb...they believed it was ALWAYS possible using webbing. That crack over there...can you sling it? No? Better to use the giant boulder 20 feet down with 3 pieces of tubular tied together. -Mark Quote
ivan Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 is that a thumb making bro look like he's got the finest honkey-fro in creation? Quote
Dane Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Dave Dingleman's thumb in his photo of Dale Bard arriving at Birdwell's RURP anchor on the first ascent of Sea of Dreams. And not a locker in sight Quote
mountainmatt Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Hooks make great anchors as well... Fisher Towers Quote
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