prole Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Good job to the SEALS, good job to the crew. Hopefully we will wax a few more of them and it will deter this from happening more frequently. Once again, the real world refuses to conform to the John Wayne film that you call reality: Somali pirates on hijack spree since weekend By ELIZABETH A. KENNEDY, Associated Press Writer Elizabeth A. Kennedy, Associated Press Writer Tue Apr 14, 7:07 pm ET MOMBASA, Kenya – Somali pirates were back to business as usual Tuesday, defiantly seizing four more ships with 60 hostages after U.S. sharpshooters rescued an American freighter captain. "No one can deter us," one bandit boasted. The freed skipper, Richard Phillips, will return home to the United States on Wednesday, after reuniting with his 19-man crew in the Kenyan port of Mombasa, according to the shipping company Maersk Line Ltd. The brigands grabbed more ships and hostages to show they would not be intimidated by President Barack Obama's pledge to confront the high-seas bandits, according to a pirate based in the Somali coastal town of Harardhere. "Our latest hijackings are meant to show that no one can deter us from protecting our waters from the enemy because we believe in dying for our land," Omar Dahir Idle told The Associated Press by telephone. "Our guns do not fire water. I am sure we will avenge." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Wax on, wax off. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/14/somalia.pirates/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STP Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 [video:youtube]ZcACaW9vwg4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 ps, NPR is just another tool of the US government. that would sure explain all that positive proganda they were throwing bush's way the last 8 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkporwit Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 BBC story damn freedom hating frog eaters captured 11 pirates, wonder why it is not on US news Actually, this was running on the front page of Yahoo this morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal_Con Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just had not seen it on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NYT WP or Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Nice one STP. This is but the faux crisis de jour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Now what I don't understand is the pirates have said they would now kill any US and French crew, instead of taking them hostage. Wasn't hostages the primary reason for us not sending in forces and kicking ass? Unless the pirates figure out how to sabotage the goods carried by ships, lay mines, or otherwise cause mayhem, keeping hostages alive is in their best interest for their own safety and for receiving ransom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Unless the pirates figure out how to sabotage the goods carried by ships, lay mines, or otherwise cause mayhem, keeping hostages alive is in their best interest for their own safety and for receiving ransom. malayasian pirates seem to make a nice living despite invariably murdering everyone on board the boats they sieze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ransom nets 10 times the reward, and guarantees some measure of safety from attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Branson paid a handsome ransom to keep his grandson from being pushed off the transom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 ps, NPR is just another tool of the US government. So those lame pledge drives I've been putting up with for years are just red herrings? Dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 ps, NPR is just another tool of the US government. In many ways, there is truth to this assertion. Certainly, NPR presents as "anti-establishment" or something like that when they present a package that is "alternative" to the traditional news media and often includes commentary critical of the government but on balance the overall NPR narrative clearly supports US governmental policy while proving that we are an "open" society which "allows" dissent. Take any of the major issues, whether it is the TARP program, the various war efforts, tax policy, or healthcare. We hear NPR commentators spew spirited critique from the left and the right but the bottom line is that the American way is right and our President has done right. Republicans complain that NPR is liberal media but, when they stole elections and invaded Iraq and outed Valerie Plame and ran up the deficit and trashed environmental regulation and allowed the banks to become "too big to fail" while deregulating them, NPR never really made it clear when our government was lying to us even though, some times at least, the lies were exposed but only in a way that listeners could easily walk away from the story dismissing the accusation of lying as wacko conspiracy theories of the left. Just as they didn't really present the deceptions of Bush or for that mater Clinton, I don't think they'll take on Obama, either. and while I admire lots of what he stands for I am afraid he's not all that different from the alternative; he'll use NPR just as his predecessors have and show that "this is America" and we tolerate dissent while he props up big money and does little or real benefit for the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 In many ways, there is truth to this assertion. Certainly, NPR presents as "anti-establishment" or something like that when they present a package that is "alternative" to the traditional news media and often includes commentary critical of the government but on balance the overall NPR narrative clearly supports US governmental policy while proving that we are an "open" society which "allows" dissent. Take any of the major issues, whether it is the TARP program, the various war efforts, tax policy, or healthcare. We hear NPR commentators spew spirited critique from the left and the right but the bottom line is that the American way is right and our President has done right. Republicans complain that NPR is liberal media but, when they stole elections and invaded Iraq and outed Valerie Plame and ran up the deficit and trashed environmental regulation and allowed the banks to become "too big to fail" while deregulating them, NPR never really made it clear when our government was lying to us even though, some times at least, the lies were exposed but only in a way that listeners could easily walk away from the story dismissing the accusation of lying as wacko conspiracy theories of the left. Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) NPR is the Prophet and Obama is the baby Jesus. Or Anyone who wants the job should be disqualified but at this point we have been sold down the river so far that corporate interests have a stranglehold on our government. This renders the person in office powerless to protect the rights of the individual. Bend over. I can't decide. Edited April 16, 2009 by Bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 you are being lied to about pirates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Good post Off, it's worth thinking about just who is raping who... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 trazzixhy to be insiteful. can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 you are being lied to about pirates As the first commenter mentioned, if the shores of Somalia are that poisoned, why would anyone fish in the area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 you are being lied to about pirates The full text of that article was quoted by me about 20 posts up @ 3 days ago. Did ya just wake up Off or was my post too many words to read? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 you are being lied to about pirates but everyone knows pirates are evil-doers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The full text of that article was quoted by me about 20 posts up @ 3 days ago. Did ya just wake up Off or was my post too many words to read? LOL Nope, just haven't been paying attention, been paying taxes instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 The full text of that article was quoted by me about 20 posts up @ 3 days ago. Did ya just wake up Off or was my post too many words to read? LOL Nope, just haven't been paying attention, been paying taxes instead. Yeah? How did that go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I made too much money last year but used it all to pay off debt. At least the dirt is soft where I filled in that hole, so it won't be too hard to dig myself back in a little bit. April really is the cruelest month, at least for the self-employed in a somewhat down economy: Federal income tax First Quarter estimated tax payment 1st half Property Taxes Quarterly Sales Tax Quarterly State Unemployment Quarterly State L&I insurance 1st Quarter Federal Unemployment I suppose I could play pirate and go make a withdrawl from the 7-11, but I'm sort of incarceration averse. May though, I'm going to the Valley, so it all evens out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 you are being lied to about pirates As the first commenter mentioned, if the shores of Somalia are that poisoned, why would anyone fish in the area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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