nolanr Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I've been wondering about this for a while, curious what other people have experienced. I know there's coyotes in the Cascades, I've seen one in the Paradise area of Rainier, also near the town of Trout Lake south of Mt. Adams. I've spent a lot of nights camped in various parts of the Cascades, and never once heard a coyote vocalizing. But it seems like you're almost guaranteed of hearing them "singing" at night if you're on the eastern side of Washington or Oregon. I don't even have a guess why there would be a regional difference. Anyone noticed the same thing? Or anybody heard them singing in the Cascades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To_The_Top Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I have definitely seen coyotes in the cascades, but you are right, I have never heard them howl. I have heard them in the Olympics, and east of the pass, but never here. TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climberbro16 Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Ive also only heard them In the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 There are coyotes in Bellevue. I've seen em running across 148th at night. They're pretty smart and they adapt well to diferent environments, so I guess they might not howl when they know there are so many city folks around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texplorer Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I have seen them in forrest park in Portland less than a 1/4 mile from downtown. I don't know what your counting as the west side of the state but you can hear them often from the grasslands campground near Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpongeBob Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 i got coyotes howling in my backyard almost every night up here on stevens pass. they come around at night searching for housecats and small dogs. nasty little bastards!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I have to run em out early Sunday mornings before the neighbors wake up. "Oh, sorry baby, you still here?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I hear them on a regular basis in my 'hood out between Monroe and Sultan. I think its pretty cool, even when they wake me up at 3am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 I've never seen nor heard coyotes in the Cascades, but I guess that's probably what got one of my cats back when I was living in Bellevue. I have heard them howling in the Eagle Cap Wilderness in the Oregon Wallowas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 Anyone else ever have the pleasure of seeing a wolf in the Cascades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregm Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 there are a bunch of coyotes on ft lewis. god i hated the army. sorry. flashback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offwidthclimber Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 it's not the cascades, but when i was growing up in southern idaho, our cat population was directly proportional to how hungry the local coyote population was. practically had to chase the bastards out of our yard sometimes. seen a few since i've moved to north idaho, but not nearly as many as in southern idaho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 7, 2001 Share Posted December 7, 2001 quote: Originally posted by offwidthclimber: it's not the cascades, but when i was growing up in southern idaho, our cat population was directly proportional to how hungry the local coyote population was. practically had to chase the bastards out of our yard sometimes.seen a few since i've moved to north idaho, but not nearly as many as in southern idaho. I hear ya. Growin up my brother and I used to pick em off with .22's when we'd catch em slinkin around the property. They were always up to no good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjizzy Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 I have heard 'yotes at my parents house in Woodinville. I also think I saw a wolf near Hope BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 One Friday night this past summer my partner and I were camping out in the parking lot for Giant Green Buttress, hoping to get an early start on Dreamer. I was sleeping in the back of my Pathfinder and he was sleeping out under the stars. I woke up in the middle of the night to the sound of him throwing rocks all over the place. He told me in the morning that "several" coyotes had surrounded him while he was sleeping and were sniffing him. He was all tied up in his mummy bag and woke up totally freaked out. I told him if they had been wolves then maybe they would have tried to eat him. He didn't think this was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Collins Posted December 8, 2001 Share Posted December 8, 2001 Coyotes in the woods behind my house in Bellevue answer to the sirens. When a fire truck goes by they respond with a chorus of howls. Saw one wolf while descending WhiteChuck Mt. in April, 1999. It was sitting on its haunches looking into a snowfilled basin. Earlier in the day on the upclimb I noticed goat tracks in the snow, a kid and a nanny. The wolf was slategray in color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted December 9, 2001 Author Share Posted December 9, 2001 I was thinking as the Cascades as basically the divider between western and eastern half of the Northwest states, so Smith Rock area I would call east. I've heard many times about coyotes having a special affinity for munching on house cats. Mmm, yummy. I'd also heard about coyotes thriving in urban areas (L.A. even, they cruise around through the aquaduct things). I haven't heard any singing around a major city, but maybe I'll get lucky some time. I'd also say anybody that has seen a wolf in the Cascades (or a wolf anywhere, even Alaska) is extremely lucky. Now I'm jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted December 9, 2001 Author Share Posted December 9, 2001 Oh yeah, about the guy sleeping out and getting sniffed by coyotes. I don't think he was in much danger, they were probably just curious. That's actually surprising they would approach a human, they tend to be extremely wary of us 2 legged critters. So far as I know wolves don't attack and eat people either, in spite of what probably 99% of cattle and sheep ranchers in Montana and Wyoming would tell you ('cause they're all deluded liars who are living in the dark ages still when it comes to the actual behaviors of predatory species...oops, sounds like I'm about to get off on a rant there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbconlin Posted December 9, 2001 Share Posted December 9, 2001 not too hard to see wolves in Yellowstone, so if you're into that sort of thing, head there. Not too for from Tetons either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted December 10, 2001 Author Share Posted December 10, 2001 Went to Yellowstone and Grand Teton several years ago. Saw coyote, fox, bison, and elk, but no wolves or grizz. I don't think we ever hit the Lamar Valley, which is supposed to be the prime viewing for wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 Yup, especialy in winter when they like to hangout by the plowed roads. Also lots of people with huge telophoto lenses and telescopes. But hey, why stop to look at wolves when there is sweet Ice Climbing 30 minutes down the road in Cooke City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordo Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 It was such a treat to see the tourons feeding a coyote on the side of the loop road in Yosem. two years ago. So cute! For Chrissakes, nothing has changed since the Fifties when you used to see that crap happen. Coyotes are annoying, mountain lions are where it's at! Last weekend while skiing up a road in Manning Park (BC), I noticed the adundant animal tracks and could actually re-create the scene of a mtn lion sneaking up on a rabbit, seeing the rabbit shit its pants (honest!) and burn tail into the woods (no blood!) Then, on the way back down the road three hours later, I noticed that within the skin tracks I had made on the way up were mtn lion prints going the same way as us! Good way to impress your new snow bunny, showing her how you were being stalked by a beast that occaisonally makes meals of humans! [ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: jordo ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpine_Tom Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 quote: Originally posted by nolanr: So far as I know wolves don't attack and eat people either, in spite of what probably 99% of cattle and sheep ranchers in Montana and Wyoming would tell you ('cause they're all deluded liars who are living in the dark ages still when it comes to the actual behaviors of predatory species...oops, sounds like I'm about to get off on a rant there). According to the folks at Wolfhaven in Tenino, there is no documented case of a wolf attaching a human in Noth America. I've also read (in a Audobon magazine, I think, in a doctor's office a few months ago) that there are more coyotes in NA now than when Columbus showed up, since wolves keep the coyote population down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 wolves were killing deer in the streets of pemberton last winter. wild kingdom baby! jordo i hear you about the cougars. you walk one way, you come back 15 minutes later and there are cougar tracks over top of yours --bad time to have to tie up a shoe lace. i have heard coyotes on both sides of the range but the urban ones do seem much quieter. survival instinct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted December 10, 2001 Share Posted December 10, 2001 Fox spotted in Bvue across from my place last week. Feel sorry for that fox. Wish i could hunt his ass out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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