mtn_mouse Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I need a new 11mm rope. I like the idea of the longer 60 meter rope (almost 200'). Any comments out there, do you like the longer ropes, or should I stick with the 50m standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonb Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I have a 50 meter rope and have come up short a few times at Smith. A lot of routes seem to be set now for 60 meters. My next rope will be 60 meters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 i only have 70m ropes now adays.... Â they tend to end up as 50m ropes and that is another reason they are good! Â 11mm wow!! talk about a safety hose. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 mtn_mouse said: I need a new 11mm rope. I like the idea of the longer 60 meter rope (almost 200'). Any comments out there, do you like the longer ropes, or should I stick with the 50m standard. Â Whatchoo want such a fat rope for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted March 5, 2003 Author Share Posted March 5, 2003 Yah, fat rope for sure. Mainly I like a big rope when I do lots of rappels and then jumaring. I guess I could go to a 10 something, but the long length sounds great for rappels, especially if the anchor is farther away. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plexus Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 I'd defin. go with 60m. I haven't yet gotten around to switching to the twin ropes method, but I think 11mm is overkill. A 10 or a 10.5 is still beefy enough to sustain abuse, provide psychological security (if it is needed) and does shave off some of that weight. Â Also having used a bi-pattern rope of a friend, I would def. buy one of those the next rope I purchase, is clearly worth the extra $10-20 to determine the mid-point. Some markers can damage sheaths and also in the case of my main rope, it is getting really faded and easy to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 plexus said: Some markers can damage sheaths .... Â Which markers have been shown to damage sheaths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Attitude said: plexus said: Some markers can damage sheaths .... Â Which markers have been shown to damage sheaths? Â All of them, except for the $50 super special Metolius disco rope marker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Capt Caveman is giving away some ropes you 2 should contact eack other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaee Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Canadian Alpine Club info  of course, if you read this: UIAA Notes it talks about one testing issue. However, below that it states that using a wet or iced rope decreases the number of falls by 67%. So, make sure your alpine rope never gets wet or icy, or if it does, discontinue use immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Sheffield Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Mew ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 60-m, for sure. I like my Sterling Marathon, if you're undecided on brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted March 6, 2003 Author Share Posted March 6, 2003 Thanks for the advice guys. I am guess I am a bit 'old guard', and we've used 150' ropes, 11 mm for years. I need to update my gear so I can show off for the climber babes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 mtn_mouse said: Thanks for the advice guys. I am guess I am a bit 'old guard', and we've used 150' ropes, 11 mm for years. I need to update my gear so I can show off for the climber babes. Yeah. I've been wearin the same wool underwear for years. It's like getting a vasectomy only worse. I went to twin 50m 9mms in the mid 80's. Alpine, big crags, Index whatever, I loved the versatility immediately. Now, through a sale I couldn't pass up, I have a 10.2 and a 7mm both 60m. It's OK but the 10.2 is overkill these days. Twin 60m 8.7s dry, bicolored will definately be my next set. And for the next decade I will wear poly pro underwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 7mm!? I assume this is a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 No no, that's the new trend in light weight climbing .. it's called climbing floss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted March 6, 2003 Author Share Posted March 6, 2003 Rich_Sheffield said: Mew ! Â Hi Rich. You still there? What size/types of ropes were you guys using in Yosemite in the 50's and 60's? You'd probably get a kick out of the new stuff these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 mtn_mouse said: I need a new 11mm rope. I like the idea of the longer 60 meter rope (almost 200'). Any comments out there, do you like the longer ropes, or should I stick with the 50m standard. Â If you don't mind luggin' it, a 70m is the way to go...The first 20 feet always gets banged up the worst, you just chop that and you'll still have a 60m+ rope...plus, it alleviates a lot of concerns about getting dropped while being lowered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin_Ristau Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 No other rope handles or wears like a Mammut. They are worth the extra money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtn_mouse Posted March 6, 2003 Author Share Posted March 6, 2003 'Mammut on the Rocks' I've got a nice 9mm rope of theirs. Â Seems kind of picky asking all these questions, but once in the backcountry you sure appreciate proper eqpt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 JoshK said: 7mm!? I assume this is a typo? Nyet. 7mm, 60m. light. Use as 2nd rope for rapels. Mostly I use it doubled for solo climbs that have little roped climbing. I tie figure eights in both. Carry very little gear, like 10 pieces. Rap off 100' or less. I tried it as an experiment and decided I like it. I would definately recommend twin 8.7's as a normal setup though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 Edelrid is just as good as Mammut. Dude those things are durable. I had an 11mx50m that was 12 years old and I still trusted for cleaning, rapping, TRing, jugging and fixing, and aid self belays. But I deecided to get rid of it so i gave it to my dad and he wrecked it using it to cut trees down. Â The most junk ropes, are Maxim. I had one that lasted less than 2 yrs but i used it for 6 anyways cause i was cheap . had to keep cutting off bits of the sheath cause it stretched way more than the core did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 Depends on the Edelrid. Some of them shed like crazy. I did a few raps that ended with my Backwardo all yellow and fuzzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 the moral of the story is dont use the Bacwardo!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORER Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 Check out www.GearExpress.com for odd lengths of rope. I got a dry rope for next to nothing from there. Â Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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