billcoe

Good lord how many people are running around naming their kids Jens? I gotta get out more. Maybe read the news occasionally or sumptin'.

Nice pic in Climbing Magazine this month of you on a 2 pitch/turned into 1 pitch climb Jens. Suppose thats you. Didn't seem lame or dumb to me, looked sporting as hell, abiet runout in the pic. Schweet schweet granite!

I think Bryon is saying that if you want to buy them back, you will now have to pay a premium. John, wasn't that some stuff you dug out of the excess gear pile in your house and sold? Great ice pics. It will come back soon, they say the freezing level is dropping around here tomorrow to 3500', should hit Montana next.

See PM, Nov 15th - 26th, with my first days taken up mostly by a convention I want to be at.

"Moose and Squirrel Eric, ask me about new rope" (spoken in a Boris Badinoff/Rocky the Squirel show voice which sounds suspiciously like Sasha Cohen playing Borat:-0. "U prrrreach 2 choir"

It does not piss me off, it just makes you look like a fool. You must have fun stroking yourself. And I know you are a great climber. Just ask yourself. Haven't you ever been sitting around a campfire and asked someone, "Hey, you do any good routes this year"? Discussion commences. If you choose to do any of these routes, be nice to ask someone whos done it recently what conditions and pro are like. Surely when Mike did Mox or Wayne did the recent traverse, posting the info here isn't chestbeating? Besides, it's been setting records with the rain, what else ya gonna do?

I don't see this as chestbeating or bragging. In fact damn, some of you all are true inspirations. I love reading these threads for that reason: but somehow, when it comes to posting my list, it's like having a small penis but being hesitant to pull it out in public since everybody elses is so much larger....hey, if it's was normal or larger I'd definately join in though. Maybe this is what is up with Kev, can't say as I think he did some pretty good routes though. Started out the year @mid 10s, no complaints there. The highlight of the year (my probable best tick of 06)- I did a solo 5.9 FFA (with loads of preview, shovel and prybar prepwork) which I was pretty happy with. (Right side route of that group I've been shoveling at the Butte). The interesting part, my route grading abiliies have seemed to have gone to shit this year. I went back to clean that very same route some more like 2 months later or so, and after rapping down and cleaning once more I clipped the line to the top and solo toproped it to get out and it seemed signifigantly wayyy harder at the top doing it on TR. Same thing happened later when Ujohn and I TRed it again. It wasn't doing a TR vs lead though as about the next week I went out and solo TR the route Powerhound and I had done (his lead) which we'd both guessed/thought @5.10 and I was thinking 5.7-5.8. Strange. Lowlife of the year. Not working up the nerve to jump on Free for Sum this year. I use to cruise it. Last time I tried it, I downclimbed from the low crux feeling weak. Must be age. Haven't been back. Strange. BTW, my vacation this year was 3 weeks in Tibet, sooooo, next year maybe 3 weeks in Yos and I'll have a member I can share again:-)

Seiously recommend medicating Dru in advance next time so that the withdrawl pains don't hit him till you finish.

Whats to complain about? Say you are heading to Indian Creek or Red Rocks and need a couple more friends in the fist size. You decide that you will check online first since they have a better selection than in the store. This just happened to me and I'm still in shock. And Awe. Shock and awe for sure. Do it and see for yourself. Type http://www.REI.com and search "friend" or "Friends". OK, I gotta give it up for you, this is what you get, no shit, no joke, no troll: "Danny First Forest Friends $12.00 Item 747469 Danny First Forest Friends - Click for larger view. Related Products You might also like... 687137 Danny First Camping Set $35.00 691100 Danny First Born To Hike $20.00 Useful Links • Shipping Charges • Delivery Date Finder • Ordering Help/FAQs • Contact Us • Sizing Info • 100% Guarantee E-mail this page. Place Your Order Here 1. Color/Size Info: 2. Choose quantity: 3. Product Info: Danny First Forest Friends See specs below A deer, a skunk and a squirrel introduce your young one to the world of wonderful Forest Friends. * Play set includes the three animals, a tree stump and a log * Squirrel and skunk fit into a hole in the stump, giving your child an idea how animals of the forest live in their natural environment * Makes a wonderful accompaniment to the Born to Hike and Camping play sets" What size crack do you stuff that friggan Moose into BTW? You may be surprised they don't have any climbing gear called Wild Country Friends, Technical Friends, Flexible Friends or any of that kick assed Wild Country stuff like EVERY OTHER GDAMN CLIMBING CATALOG SITE AND SHOP . You can't blame me either, in the old days when our votes still counted, and it wasn't a "board nominated crony", I always voted for climbers to the board, most of the rest of you voted for the Friggan business majors who like to go for "long walks on the beach and hiking and biking". If I couldn't vote for a climber cause there wasn't one, I voted for the candidate who sounded like the most active and intereted in getting us a broad range of gear. We as a group let those values go in place of money. So this is the end result of those votes. Your choice of friends is a plastic play toy group made in China BUT sold with a nice margin so the balance sheet looks good. Whoop-de-friggan-do. My point, go to your local shops for real climbing gear. I'm voting for Carl next write in, and maybe they will at least see what Carl stands for if enough of us do so. Carl, whats your last name and REI number?

Classic! "Truly BAD rain"? Sounds like it's time to button up and get your aid climbng stoke on.

<im Worth saying again.

Good luck!

Now determined to be a healthy thing to do. "Doctor Backs Picking Your Nose And Eating It Picking your nose and eating it is one of the best ways to stay healthy, according to a top Austrian doctor. Innsbruck-based lung specialist Prof Dr Friedrich Bischinger said people who pick their noses with their fingers were healthy, happier and probably better in tune with their bodies. He says society should adopt a new approach to nose-picking and encourage children to take it up. Dr Bischinger said: "With the finger you can get to places you just can't reach with a handkerchief, keeping your nose far cleaner. "And eating the dry remains of what you pull out is a great way of strengthening the body's immune system. "Medically it makes great sense and is a perfectly natural thing to do. In terms of the immune system the nose is a filter in which a great deal of bacteria are collected, and when this mixture arrives in the intestines it works just like a medicine. "Modern medicine is constantly trying to do the same thing through far more complicated methods, people who pick their nose and eat it get a natural boost to their immune system for free. " He pointed out that children happily pick their noses, yet by the time they have become adults they have stopped under pressure from a society that has branded it disgusting and anti social. He said: "I would recommend a new approach where children are encouraged to pick their nose. It is a completely natural response and medically a good idea as well." And he pointed out that if anyone was really worried about what their neighbour was thinking, they could still enjoy picking their nose in private if they still wanted to get the benefits it offered."

Disagree. The best will pull my ass out of any fire which I stupidly jump into with both feet. I am getting somewhat better at not doing that as much as when I was young. Of course I'm getting lazyier too. Use to be my hands would almost shake I had to climb so bad. I was out the other day and found myself just wandering quietly, studying the wind and the leaves falling, not careing if I got off the ground or not, and actually surprising myself by blowing it off. However: intellegence and preplanning skills cannot be underestimated in our sport as regards to staying safe or alive IMO, and those relate to having fun and contributing to quality of the experience as well. ie: (young me) "We got us plenty of daylight lets leave the headlamps and other weight in in the backpacks right in camp. We can go light." "Oh, I can crank that vertical headwall with a single ice axe, chop a stance and bring you up we'll summit and do a little hiking out in the dark...whats that you say, a storm brewin and we should head down and it will still be dark, no way dude, we got us some of that there vertical ice right here." "Fuck this - I'm too warm, I'm tossing my down coat and we can pick it up when we get down off the wall. Looks like the ice is starting to melt now it's warming up. " "Bullshit it's not gonna avalance and if it does we'll have a piton pounded into solid granite each pitch. We're here and were doing this by God " "Move over bubba I'll lead the damn thing, just because no one has ever done it before don't mean I can't get up it right now. Shit, how runout can it be move outoftheway. " "What do you mean we should head back now cause it getting dark soon? We have all kinds of time, and anyway, how dark can it get anyway?" "Screw it, it might look like a big loose boulder: but shit, how loose could it be, bet I can pull right over that thing, it's going nowhere." As always, your results may vary.

Carl, who did you threaten to not have this moved to spray in 10 seconds or less? Good job! ™ You have some obvious skills:-) Bill _________________________________________________ Imitation: the most sincere form of flattery.

If people have climbed it before, then ask them. If it's virgin: Your first pic looks like if you touch it it's going for a ride. Have a ground crew with a walkie talkie watching the base if there is .001 percent doubt a loose rock could nail a living being. Alternatively tie safety tape around the impact zone. I find that once I start tossing rocks off, most rational wandering human beings will stop some distance away to watch, but not always, so keep an eye out cause they will walk directly below you to see what you are about, without regard towards their own safety if they do not know what you are doing. Rap down from the top with an old rope, make sure the ends of your rap rope are knotted and stuffed into a sack which is on your waist or neck. Have jumars and a long pry bar with you. Maybe a drill, hangers and bolts too. Rap a pitch and don't leave any loose stuff balanced above you. So as you go down kick, push or pry it off. You do not want to rope to pluck off that balancing rock you neglected 100 feet up. Get down a pitch and either jug back up or put in a gear or bolt anchor as needed. Repeat as necessary. Do routes. Have fun. If the stuff will fall off easy, dump it in a controled manner so it doesn't kill someone is my opinion. Start by asking around first to make sure that others are good with your plan of action. Maybe hang out there for a day and see if anyone shows up and then discuss it, check the area online for info etc etc.. Some of it looks very doable as is though.... Have fun!

Don, I think it's even funnier if you imagine it as a Dennis Miller sounding spew. Nice photo montage as usual Dude. Glassbonghits said: Well the Chinese 'Pwned Tibet in 1959. Now that you have figured out what all of us unselfish bitches are ignoring Bob, could you advise us what specific steps You personally have enacted to counter this Chinese perifidy? It will help the rest of us uncaring Fucks sort it out to know what you have done.

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As long as you want a hip belay on what ever you climb and dont talk about bolts, chalk, nesting, meetings, or rangers, you will do just fine. Well, you'll be safe and it will be interesting and intellegent companionship:-). Sometimes the best growth we experience is when we disagree with an idea or philosophy another has. My last regular climbing partner and I use to have heated 10 hour disagreements as we would drive to Yosemite or wherever concerning Water use in the west, resouce allocation, but especially the role of authorities in controlling what he called :the resource". He thought that having park rangers in Yosemite control everyone was a good thing for at least 50 reasons. This kind of thing went on for over 25 years. It contributed to making the trips interesting, memorable, fun, and informative.

You NAILED that one. I was up bouldering at the Butte this summer and Hank (one of 2 Jack Russells my wife fished from the JR rescue people) FLUSHED a mouse out of a hole. All he did was stick his muzzel in one hole and snort, then run to the other hole he'd located @8 feet away. Back and forth, maybe 4-5 times when up pops a mouse, leaving the safety and security of the hole - bad decision, Hank quickly crunched him. He can shockingly make squirels fall right out of trees too with the same result.Squirels make him mental. Seen that 4 times in the backyard alone, and he would have nailed bunches more, but on walks he's on a leash, going mental, but going nowhere.

Ahhh, thanks for the link Gary. I understand now. The "harness" itself didn't fail, Monty mis-tied a swiss Sling which he himself had tied. The "equipment" was fine. Until This one, I had not heard of a harness failure, which, when you think of how people SOMETIMES toss them into a trunk after climbing, and SOMETIMES those very same trunks have had car batteries carried in them......well, you'd expect an occasional failure.

Don't ya just hate it when that happens??

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That one filled as well, but someone named Kjack just posted on another thread on CC.com that they need someone. 1 more person needed