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This link isn't directly related to your question, but I think it's amazing that someone actually did this study (and someone funded it!). oxygenated water does not improve exercise performance......DUH!

I doubt Gu gets converted to glycogen in any useful timescale. Gu > blood glucose-monomers is what that product is all about. Your water question is interesting and I don't know the answer, but I'm sure that "electrolyte loading" would increase a body's water carrying capacity. If you find some good answers, please share. edit: Quick pubmed search gives these interesting results: Link1 Hydration recommendations for sport 2008. Link2American College of Sports Medicine position stand. Exercise and fluid replacement Link3 Fluids and hydration in prolonged endurance performance I can only see abstracts; don't have academic access.

Domestic terrorists in the N. Cascades?

DRU THINKS YOU ARE SUCK TOO

I've recently had a sunnier outlook on life, but tonight it occurred to me that most of you still suck.

I think I visited there briefly last night.

Silly adult. Trips are for kids!

I've been there in late July (edit: actually late June), which was pretty hot, but not ridiculous. Had one day (out of ~8) that was too hot to climb so I went on a hike and took pictures of blooming cactuses. You can always find a shady climb any time of day. If you haven't been there yet, you should go. It is fantastic. EDIT: OOPS! I was there in LATE JUNE, not late July. Might wanna check the forecast before you go and make your decision accordingly.

TF = 2hrs 15min from City of Rox

:lmao::lmao: You are like a one man hit parade of comedy funny ha

Funny that you say that... My headlamp batteries died and I had to change them because I couldn't see a thing! the whole thing took about five minutes. since I had to dig in my pack for fresh batteries! Maybe if you built simpler anchors you would get off the climb before dark.

Yup, that angle is a little on the wide side. Also looks like it took a long time to build.

You should post a trip report here. What did you climb? Got any pictures? As for the jacket Q, I think davidk is right.

very tasteful Bill

I'd love to test your theory. How about unplugging your computer for a few years?

Hey mods, just imagine how much better this thread would be without Kevbone and KK. edit: OK, mostly just kevbone.

how judgmental of you. Did you know what "inane" meant or did you have to put down your drool cup and look it up? Be honest.

lotsa life left there. It seems you are right. I think we might see 5 pages yet!

If you don't use a 70m rope at Index, you will definitely die. It is an absolute necessity. Just like someone apparently said earlier in this thread. edit: For some reason I can't find the place where someone said you absolutely need a 70m rope at Index. Maybe you can find it for me Dane?

Yes, convenience and simplicity are WAY overrated. Keep on rockin' with that pair of 50m ropes!

Carrying two ropes is way awesome.

Yes, I very much agree with Eldiente that I wish more people would use rope or visual signals to minimize yelling. Yelling commands is annoying. Yelling should be reserved for mighty yalps, badgering the leader, sasquatch impressions, and other expressions of joy. My rope signals: When leader is off belay, he/she pulls up about 20-30' of rope as fast as they can. This should be much faster than one would be climbing, so it is a clear signal to belayer that leader is off belay. Leader then pauses for ~10sec to allow belayer to remove belay device. Leader then reels in remaining slack, puts second on belay and gives three tugs to signal second is now on belay. My visual signals: hand cutting across the throat sign = leader is off-belay waving towards me = come on up, you are on belay middle finger = you are my friend and I like you

A 70m rope is required for rapping off and/or toproping many routes at the LTW and UTW if you want to do it with a single rope. If you want to haul up a second 50/60m rope, that works of course, but I prefer to just bring one rope. Need 70m to rap: Princely Ambitions, Golden Road Need 70m to TR: Godzilla (if rope is running through the gear) I'm sure there are many other examples, but that otter get you started. edit: Blake corrected me. I meant to say 70m required for rap from Heaven's Gate, not Golden Road.