Jim Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Given the state of Congress - I'll vote for this option. [video:youtube] Quote
jon Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 It's too bad Howard Dean had that Ballmer moment because he actually is not only a great mind but isn't afraid to say it how it is. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 It's too bad Howard Dean had that Ballmer moment because he actually is not only a great mind but isn't afraid to say it how it is. He's an extremist. No different than Rush Limbaugh or anyone far right that you would hate. Quote
kevbone Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 It's too bad Howard Dean had that Ballmer moment because he actually is not only a great mind but isn't afraid to say it how it is. He's an extremist. No different than Rush Limbaugh or anyone far right that you would hate. He is VERY different that Rush Limbaugh. VERY different. Wanting to balance the budget.... hardly an extremist. Quote
Phil K Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 It's too bad Howard Dean had that Ballmer moment because he actually is not only a great mind but isn't afraid to say it how it is. He's an extremist. No different than Rush Limbaugh or anyone far right that you would hate. [video:youtube] Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 He is VERY different that Rush Limbaugh. VERY different. Wanting to balance the budget.... hardly an extremist. Says the guy who wants Ron Paul for president Quote
akhalteke Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 He is VERY different that Rush Limbaugh. VERY different. Wanting to balance the budget.... hardly an extremist. Says the guy who wants Ron Paul for president Plus, Rush WANTS to balance the budget but railing OXY wont get you there, so he's out... Quote
rob Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 It's too bad Howard Dean had that Ballmer moment because he actually is not only a great mind but isn't afraid to say it how it is. He's an extremist. No different than Rush Limbaugh or anyone far right that you would hate. He is VERY different that Rush Limbaugh. VERY different. Wanting to balance the budget.... hardly an extremist. wait, I thought republicans and democrats were all the same, that's what you keep telling me Quote
Pete_H Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 VERY different VERY different. Dean is tall and has hair and Rush is short and bald. Quote
glassgowkiss Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 with pretty much 95% of people in this country living above their means, paying more and spending less is wise thing to do. Quote
matt_warfield Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I agree with ivan. Some bad shit has to happen to convince Congress to do something. Quote
Jim Posted December 28, 2012 Author Posted December 28, 2012 So - Boner could't even get his own Plan B passed in the House - so what could possibly be palatable to the teabaggers? Congress will likely come up with some minor agreement and then set another cliff deadline in 4 months, or we'll have a similar self-imposed debate around the debt limit. What a way to run a country - thanks Republicans and Teabaggers. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 So - Boner could't even get his own Plan B passed in the House - so what could possibly be palatable to the teabaggers? Congress will likely come up with some minor agreement and then set another cliff deadline in 4 months, or we'll have a similar self-imposed debate around the debt limit. What a way to run a country - thanks Republicans and Teabaggers. Gee, Jim - Democracy sure is hard!!! Quote
Jim Posted December 28, 2012 Author Posted December 28, 2012 It was the Republicans that wanted the "fiscal cliff" set up as a result of their uncompromising position on the last go-around on the debt ceiling. And now they are doing the same thing - no compromise. It's not reassuring at all to the financial markets and an odd way of running a budget. As for democracy - the majority of Americans want a the tax break for $250k+ earners to expire. Just get on with it already. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 It was the Republicans that wanted the "fiscal cliff" set up as a result of their uncompromising position on the last go-around on the debt ceiling. And now they are doing the same thing - no compromise. It's not reassuring at all to the financial markets and an odd way of running a budget. As for democracy - the majority of Americans want a the tax break for $250k+ earners to expire. Just get on with it already. You should be jumping for joy - the cliff gives you Clinton-era tax rates for ALL! You know the era of massive growth and prosperity! Quote
gertlush Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I see many graphs & text heavy cut & paste posts in this thread's future. Quote
Crux Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 What kind of gear is optimal for teh Fiscal Cliff? That Howard Dean guy seems to know a lot about the route. Did he do first ascent descent? Who is Clinton? Was he a famous peak tea bagger? Please help. Quote
Jim Posted December 28, 2012 Author Posted December 28, 2012 It was the Republicans that wanted the "fiscal cliff" set up as a result of their uncompromising position on the last go-around on the debt ceiling. And now they are doing the same thing - no compromise. It's not reassuring at all to the financial markets and an odd way of running a budget. As for democracy - the majority of Americans want a the tax break for $250k+ earners to expire. Just get on with it already. You should be jumping for joy - the cliff gives you Clinton-era tax rates for ALL! You know the era of massive growth and prosperity! I actually DO think all the Bush era tax cuts should be eliminated - above and below $250k. Do the $250k now and phase in the others late given the weak economy. It was irresponsible to cut taxes and go to war at the same time. And yea, cut the military 10% - that minor trim is way overdue. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 It was the Republicans that wanted the "fiscal cliff" set up as a result of their uncompromising position on the last go-around on the debt ceiling. And now they are doing the same thing - no compromise. It's not reassuring at all to the financial markets and an odd way of running a budget. As for democracy - the majority of Americans want a the tax break for $250k+ earners to expire. Just get on with it already. You should be jumping for joy - the cliff gives you Clinton-era tax rates for ALL! You know the era of massive growth and prosperity! I actually DO think all the Bush era tax cuts should be eliminated - above and below $250k. Do the $250k now and phase in the others late given the weak economy. It was irresponsible to cut taxes and go to war at the same time. And yea, cut the military 10% - that minor trim is way overdue. Phase what in? Bush only cut taxes for the rich, remember? That's what you people were humming as your mantra for years. Quote
Jim Posted December 28, 2012 Author Posted December 28, 2012 No. That's not true. I've been consistent on the need to get read of ALL the Bushie tax cuts. They were irresponsible and have significantly contributed to our present position - that and running an unnecessary invasion of Iraq. AND the logic of running those wars as "off-budget" items. Brilliant. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 No. That's not true. I've been consistent on the need to get read of ALL the Bushie tax cuts. They were irresponsible and have significantly contributed to our present position - that and running an unnecessary invasion of Iraq. AND the logic of running those wars as "off-budget" items. Brilliant. I hope they revert to the Clinton tax levels and that they impact you personally more than you anticipate, and I hope it hurts badly. Quote
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