Hell NO on I-1098

[Jim]

Woah! What have we here?

 

Jim is clearly not a full-time Regressive like myself, but there seems to be a situational regressive syndrome percolating up in previously uninfected quadrants.

 

Thanks, but I've always been on the fiscal conservative end of things - I just like to see our money used efficiently so that services, including progressive adgendas, can be met without gouging taxpayers.

[JayB]

Seems like every time there's a stumbling drunk on the side of the road there are 3 patrol cars on the scene.

 

Cut the force back a bit?

 

It's about time.

 

Legalize drugs, like we should have done a long time ago, and you can cut the bloated criminal justice system in half.

 

 

Hear bleeping hear.

 

Still think my strategy of legalizing drugs and using the tax revenue to fund public sector pay and benefits has some legs, particularly in Washington.

 

You make the civil liberties side of the left happy with the end of drug prohibition and the folks who deify the public sector happy in one go, and probably rope in some regressive zealots like myself.

[tvashtarkatena]

The principle's pretty simple here. Raise taxes and the state will continue to avoid the more politically difficult reforms it has needed to make for a long, long time.

 

The cutting of services rather than attacking the root cause of the shortfall in the first palce is a standard, punish the taxpayer tactic.

 

You may buy it, I don't.

Edited September 22, 2010 by tvashtarkatena

[tvashtarkatena]

I've also been fiscally conservative from day fucking one, most notably in my advocacy of cutting the shit out of our fantastically bloated military and cautioning against the invasion of Iraq...two options which most of the conservitards here STRONGLY dissagreed with BTW.

 

That lack of consistency between word and deed is nothing new to that crowd, of course.

 

[JoshK]

11 pages and counting, and it seems the takeaway from this thread is most of us can agree on two things:

 

1.) legalize drugs

 

2.) shrink the shitty police force

 

Can we stamp this and sign it in to law now?

[Jim]

 

ohhhh a 2% raise in a time of 1.1% inflation. that's a budget buster.

 

meanwhile the "oppressed masses" argue midday on the interwebs about the lazy government employees.... who aren't posting on the interwebs

 

King County's contracts call for cost-of-living (COLA) increases between 2 percent and 6 percent a year for most contracts, 3 percent to 6 percent for the bus drivers and a flat 5 percent for police.

 

Under these contracts, most King County employees received a 4.88-percent cost-of-living adjustment in January. Many employees also get "step" increases for rising into a new pay grade. A step up to grade 2 was worth another 4.85 percent; to grade 3 another 2.4 percent, and so on.

 

Yea - in these times I do think it's excessive. Why do you get a pay raise, on top of a COLA, for just hanging around.

[j_b]

WA's deficit presents an historical and badly needed opportunity to change course.

 

ya, like getting an state income tax on the wealthy.

[tvashtarkatena]

On the wealthy the 1st year...and the rest of us the next once that ice is broken.

[tvashtarkatena]

Again, when the state does the right thing, then we'll talk.

 

Until then, FU.

 

 

[Jim]

Again, when the state does the right thing, then we'll talk.

 

Until then, FU.

 

 

Given the complexity of the issues and the recent track record of our bonehead legislators, I'm not optimistic.

[JoshK]

What about a tax only on Jeff Bezos?

[Hugh Conway]

Yea - in these times I do think it's excessive. Why do you get a pay raise, on top of a COLA, for just hanging around.

 

I'm curious the metrics you want to use to evaluate performance for a policeman or bus driver.

[j_b]

Yea - in these times I do think it's excessive. Why do you get a pay raise, on top of a COLA, for just hanging around.

 

Keeping up with inflation (more or less) isn't excessive and it has nothing to do with how much of a raise you got or how much you make, or perhaps you should consider working for what your equivalent earns in Timbuktu as well.

[tvashtarkatena]

Again, when the state does the right thing, then we'll talk.

 

Until then, FU.

 

 

Given the complexity of the issues and the recent track record of our bonehead legislators, I'm not optimistic.

 

It should be noted that the primary opponent to drug legalization and reductions in the criminal justice system is...ding ding ding:

 

the 'fiscally conservative' GOP

 

In addition, that very same group of morons blames teachers rather than the multi layered legion of more highly paid 'administrators'

that feed from the same, limited budget pie.

 

So, no, I'm not 'siding with conservatives', at least not by any contemporary definition of the word, I'm opposing their fucked up ideas, here.

 

Edited September 22, 2010 by tvashtarkatena

[rob]

I wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

[Jim]

Yea - in these times I do think it's excessive. Why do you get a pay raise, on top of a COLA, for just hanging around.

 

I'm curious the metrics you want to use to evaluate performance for a policeman or bus driver.

 

I'm curious of the metrics, or likely lack there of, for the same.

[j_b]

On the wealthy the 1st year...and the rest of us the next once that ice is broken.

 

fear-mongering, although I am not entirely opposed to a more widespread state income tax if the services we get are worthwhile (nothing is free)

[tvashtarkatena]

For a bus driver: Don't be high.

 

For a cop: Don't bust me when I'm high...

 

...unless I'm driving a bus, of course.

 

[j_b]

I wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

 

You have no choice but to make him do it. Whining about others making their employers do it is surely not the way to get there.

[tvashtarkatena]

Dude, he works for MSFT. It doesn't get TOO much better than that.

[rob]

I wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

 

You have no choice but to make him do it. Whining about others making their employers do it is surely not the way to get there.

 

Damn, do you have a vagina?

 

Who's whining about anybody else? I just wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

[glassgowkiss]

If it passes, I predict we'll all be defined as "rich" in short order.

yeah, you are rich, if you measure the level of shit in your brain, cunt. now go and fuck a pig.

[tvashtarkatena]

I would love to hear that quote on the floor of the state legislature...LOL

[tvashtarkatena]

OK cuntz, i gotta go earn some dough selling crack to children...tax free.

 

 

[j_b]

I wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

 

You have no choice but to make him do it. Whining about others making their employers do it is surely not the way to get there.

 

Damn, do you have a vagina?

 

Who's whining about anybody else? I just wish MY employer kept up with inflation.

 

I can see at least a few whining about it, which explains that I assumed you were whining too. Sorry about that.