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Fairweather

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I'm just happy that the American left once again sees no distinction between it's political interests and the national interest, and that the days in which the folks detonating themselves in crowded Baghdad markets are referred to as "The Resistance" are soon to be behind us. Hopefully the propensity to indulge in wild conspiracy theories in the wake of political alienation and disappointments is in abeyance as well.

 

I think that - even allowing for the Black Helicopter folks during the Clinton Era - you'd have to go back to the days of the opposition to the Roosevelt administration in the late 1930's to find a similar dynamic at work in American political life.

 

You've been putting forth this "viewpoint" since McCain lost. It's as incoherent and misinformed now as it was then.

 

The folks in Gaza have provided us with a bit of fodder for a thought experiment.

 

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"Hey....wait a second....that's an image of President...Obama that they're burning..."

 

Looking forward to a series of "Hey...wait...!" moments from the American left when the Obama administration discusses the evidence pertaining to the Iranian nuclear program, etc.

 

It's a whole new day in America. sickie

 

 

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The folks in Gaza have provided us with a bit of fodder for a thought experiment.

 

r1645453159.jpg

 

"Hey....wait a second....that's an image of President Obama that they're burning..."

 

Looking forward to a series of "Hey...wait...!" moments from the American left when the Obama administration discusses the evidence pertaining to the Iranian nuclear program, etc.

 

It's a whole new day in America. sickie

 

 

That pic is from Tehran, I do believe.

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Yup. Misread the caption. Hopefully the Palestinians will get some posters of their own along with their next batch of American flags in the next aid/rocket shipment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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well if you don't care about results then I guess GW is your man. (i do agree with your point character as well though, it is equal to results in my book)

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As for people who stood by their beliefs no matter what; Hitler's definitely the shit. Charles Manson's up there, too.

 

That has got to be the most moronic criteria for admiration I've ever heard.

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One of the definitions of insanity is persisting in the same behavior even after it has been proven to not accomplish anything productive.

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One of the definitions of insanity is persisting in the same behavior even after it has been proven to not accomplish anything productive.

like trying to convince someone all their political beliefs are wrong, even when they've shown they'll never-ever change them? :)

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One of the definitions of insanity is persisting in the same behavior even after it has been proven to not accomplish anything productive.

like trying to convince someone all their political beliefs are wrong, even when they've shown they'll never-ever change them? :)

That's what make going to my parent's house for dinner so much fun... we can keep hashing out the same old crap and both sides will always know how wrong the other side still is.

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That's what make going to my parent's house for dinner so much fun... we can keep hashing out the same old crap and both sides will always know how wrong the other side still is.

 

Do you say grace?

 

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What amazed me about Bush's final press conference was his bewilderment at why so many people (actually, he believes its just a few) are so angry at him.

 

Now THAT's cognative dissonance.

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One of the definitions of insanity is persisting in the same behavior even after it has been proven to not accomplish anything productive.

 

You mean like The Surge of forces and accompanying strategy changes in Iraq that you and your fellow Dems said would never work?

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An unscientific poll of professional historians completed the same week produced results far worse for a president clinging to the hope that history will someday take a kinder view of his presidency than does contemporary public opinion.

 

In an informal survey of 109 professional historians conducted over a three-week period through the History News Network, 98.2 percent assessed the presidency of Mr. Bush to be a failure while 1.8 percent classified it as a success.

 

Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that the current presidency is the worst in the nation’s history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations.

 

At least two of those who ranked the current president in the 31-41 ranking made it clear that they placed him next-to-last, with only James Buchanan, in their view, being worse. “He is easily one of the 10-worst of all time and—if the magnitude of the challenges and opportunities matter—then probably in the bottom five, alongside Buchanan, Johnson, Fillmore, and Pierce,” wrote another historian.

 

The reason for the hesitancy some historians had in categorizing the Bush presidency as the worst ever, which led them to place it instead in the “nearly the worst” group, was well expressed by another historian who said, “It is a bit too early to judge whether Bush's presidency is the worst ever, though it certainly has a shot to take the title. Without a doubt, it is among the worst.”

 

http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

 

Note: the poll was conducted before the financial collapse and the economy crashed. :grlaf:

 

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I'm just happy that the American left once again sees no distinction between it's political interests and the national interest,

 

Here JayB would like us to believe that the rightwing doesn't always do the same. For him the largest transfer of wealth in history toward the upper 1% of the income bracket, the destruction of the middle class, military adventurism to control the flow of oil, the bankrupting of the nation and the systematic destruction of the state weren't the expected end result of deliberate rightwing policies that solely benefited economic elites although they were presented as the national interest

 

and that the days in which the folks detonating themselves in crowded Baghdad markets are referred to as "The Resistance" are soon to be behind us.

 

When did the "left" do that? are you tripping on us?

 

Hopefully the propensity to indulge in wild conspiracy theories in the wake of political alienation and disappointments is in abeyance as well.

 

which conspiracy theories? the GOP didn't disenfranchize millions of minority voters? Bush wasn't told al quaeda was going to strike american soil? this adminstration didn't torture and throw the constituion in the garbage? and on, and on ... Of course, framing the critics of this adminstration as conspiracy theorists is so much easier than ever acknowledging the fiasco YOU voted for despite people telling you so for years.

 

Your lack of honesty and your partisanship and your advocacy of extremism is a disgrace but I am confident you'll keep pretending you are a "moderate"

 

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Now Fairweather is a Bush apologist. The guy likes bucking conventional wisdom. Consensus is the Bush presidency was worse than a failure ...in fact, Bush dragged the country down. We're talking lasting damage.

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