G-spotter Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Patagucci's worth every penny IMO. Stuff lasts forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Buy one jacket, get a free membership to the Baby Seal Club. Â i hear they run there, you'd like it. Â But are they color-coordinated? Â teh runs? depends, was what you had for dinner the same as lunch> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If you really wanted to be environmental and feel good stuff, buty from St. Vincent De Paul and Goodwill. Â Those people who work there really need the jobs. In addition, you buy secondhand and do NOT create a demand that takes as many resources. Sure the stuff is not as good, but hell, people in the 50's were wearing worse stuff than what you find at St. Vincent's and Goodwill. Â Do something that matters. The patagucci people live in an expensive area of California. You pay for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You pay for that. Â Ventura is cheaper than Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Ventura highway in the moonshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Patagucci's worth every penny IMO. Stuff lasts forever. But goes out of fashion in about 15 minutes. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 When I was young, I could do a great Harp Seal imitation. Probably be confused with a Beluga Whale imitation now if I tried to pull it off now. Â Â Â Besides, with all you Canadians walkin around with clubs and all..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 really pisses me off that my most favorite activity is turning into sport for rich and famous, not exactly the crowd i want to hang out with. discuss  Obvious anger issues too.   Hey, where did GLASSBONGHITS go off to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Ventura highway in the moonshine. Â Ventura county line in the moonshine, 3' swell, phosphoresence each paddle a green glow. No wind, clean lines, nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Yup, that was the 60's for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Ventura highway in the moonshine. Â Ventura county line in the moonshine, 3' swell, phosphoresence each paddle a green glow. No wind, clean lines, nobody else. Â You are Patagonia's target market Carl. Can you write a few lines about slacklining at Camp 4 too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Outdoor clothing is lighter, cheaper (thanks to the interwebs), and performs better than ever. The market's so glutted nowadays that their's always something on sale, if you're patient. As for fashion, well, considering the sorry appearance of this wearer, that's never been much of a consideration. Â As for Patagucchi in particular, they've been overpriced for about 20 years now. Nothing new under the sun. Edited September 11, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydroman Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You are right. It’s all still marketing. I may well have been sold on the ‘feel good’. Believe me that I’m well aware that all these companies are trying to get me to buy their stuff. I don’t just believe everything I read like the happy little chickens pecking around the yard that provide my supposedly ‘free range’ chicken. Still, I climb and spend most of my free time outside so I need gear. That being said I strongly believe in making an educated choice. Patagonia wins my vote. I don’t shop by price. I shop based on my conscience and from everything I can get my hands on it appears that Patagonia by a long shot does their best to operate in a manner that other companies should emulate.  Someone else mentioned that really doing the right thing would be to buy used. That’s not a bad suggestion and has a lot of truth in it. I typically buy new, though I buy as few things as I feel I really need and use them until they are threadbare and falling apart. Patagonia stuff in my experience lasts a long, long time and is better made than other gear/clothing makers which means less of my time spent pulling out the sewing machine and fixing the stuff. The longer it lasts the less I need to buy and the cheaper it becomes for me and the world. I follow that philosophy with most material things. I bought my vehicle new, take good care of it regardless of expense and it still drives like new at almost 190k. This has nothing to do with being self righteous to justify my buying expensive stuff. If you came over to my place you would quickly realize that I’m not much of a consumer. I’ve practically live like a monk and have slept on the floor since I left my parents house 13 years ago. In fact I typically cut the labels off my gear and make much of my own stuff to begin with. I definitely believe there is too much waste in the world. Part of it is because substandard crap doesn’t last long. Part of it is because people buy too much stuff. I try to do my part. I spend a lot of my time sewing and repairing all my friends gear for free just so that it won’t end up in the dump.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 When I was a kid my dad would loan me climbing skins for skiing. They were the pure kind real seal skin. He's still got a few pairs that he might be willing to sell the highest bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You are Patagonia's target market Carl. Â They named a jacket after me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Whatever else Yvon does/did, he helped support a grassroots group to keep oil and gas out of the Bob Marshall wilderness and adjacent RARE II lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 My experience with Patagonia....I've waited for sales and gotten the stuff on a really good sale, and the quality is outstanding. Very unlike the Northface sorority girl raincoat of the early 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I’ve practically live like a monk and have slept on the floor since I left my parents house 13 years ago.  Right out of high school, before college I lived with my best friend. He was a great guy, but a little odd in his living habits. He owned 1 fork, 1 spoon, 1 butter knife and 1 sharp knife. 1 bowl, 1 sauce pan and 1 fry pan.  He would have cereal OR Cream of Wheat ONLY for breakfast except on Sunday's when he would make scrambled eggs and toast. He worked near by and everyday he would come home for lunch and have a grilled cheese sandwich and tomato OR chicken noodle soup ONLY. For dinner he would have EITHER spaghetti, garlic bread and green beans OR a fried hamburger patty, a roll and green beans, ONLY.  Every night he would drink 12 cans of generic "Beer" at a minimum. Though he never seemed to have anything more than a buzz. He was in bed by 10, EVERYNIGHT.  We shared a large studio-like place. My bed was on one wall and his "bed" which was on the opposite wall, consisted of a wooden frame and his bed roll next to the frame. He never got a mattress for the frame. The frame was of sentimental value but he preferred to sleep on the floor, on his bedroll, right next to the frame.  He was a really good friend though. We had great times together. After a couple of years he ended up going into the Marine Corps, serving a year and getting an honorable discharge for what was diagnosed as flat feet. He committed suicide a year later. I'll always miss that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 talk about crickets . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Outdoor clothing is lighter, cheaper (thanks to the interwebs), and performs better than ever. The market's so glutted nowadays that their's always something on sale, if you're patient. As for fashion, well, considering the sorry appearance of this wearer, that's never been much of a consideration. As for Patagucchi in particular, they've been overpriced for about 20 years now. Nothing new under the sun.  it scares me when i agree with you  i used to think i needed fancy climbing clothes to climb in. now i just where whatever i can find. and *gasp* i even wear cotton and dennim to crag in  I'm a rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blurpy Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 awww, i didn't know you were gonna kill it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyobob Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) If anyone from Mammut is listening: Â Why can't you give a more generous cut in the groin, not everyone wants to look like a euro porn star? Edited September 12, 2007 by tokyobob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 You don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 why don’t we all just suck it up and buy one pair of pants and wear them until they are worn out and can’t be repaired anymore  What, not everybody does this!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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