Third Strike

[Fairweather]

New lows are being hit almost daily. In addition to an old self-promoting curmudgeon moderator with reading comprehension issues, there is an overriding drug theme here that I no longer wish to be associated with; it includes K-12 teachers and moderators. If that were not enough, there are jackals who have nothing better to do than speculate endlessly... endlessly on the fate, fortitude, and intellect of 3 good men lost on Mount Hood. Shameful. And then there are regular death threats/wishes expressed against The President of The United States that go unmoderated and unchallenged. It's almost laughable that those on another website are regularly referred to by those here as haters, nazis, reichwingers, etc, etc, etc, when the level of unbridled anger, hysteria, and hate that exists on this very site is so profound.

 

And there is the hypocrisy. Amazing levels of it. Endless posters lambasting soccer moms who drive SUV's, even while they park their own Toyota 4-Runner at the trailhead or fly around the globe in a 747-300 chasing a pointless persuit - because obviously a climber's need for personal fulfillment and cultural enrichment is so much more legitimate than a mother's family transport. A 99%-to-100% lilly-white (based on pics in the gallery) user list lamenting the injustice they help propogate around the world. Amazing. And the materialism!! Oh my! All the latest cams, biners, boots, water filters, tents, ropes, gadgets and gizmos....but pursuing a dream with all the latest and greatest $$$$ gear hardly qualifies as materialism, right? And let's talk about education; there's plenty of edu-snobbery about here, wouldn't you agree? Many of the metro-males on cc.com regularly put their knowledge obscurus and higher degrees on display in leiu of genitalia. And it's not really important to them that the taxes borne by a humble garbage man or a single working mother helped subsidize their education - so long as they can confidently lecture the same about the evils of capitalism and America's complicity in virtually every world-ill recorded since 1776. Of course, many of these same posters were lucky enough to attend a private university. Let's not even discuss the privilege they likely enjoyed on the way to the admissions office! We have land-speculating yacht owners lamenting the plight of the poor in Venezuela, and a plethora of attorneys who, likely, have never missed a meal or a mortgage payment crying about rising health care costs. We have many posters - including a few teachers - who probably spend as much work-time surfing this place as they do performing the duties they are paid to do. And then there are the posters who claim to love freedom and justice - even as they gleefully sing the praises of prosecutions without evidence (La Cross players and Carl Rove come to mind) and call for the imprisonment of network executives. The list goes on.

 

I suppose I haven't been banned up to this point because my direct and unrefined challenges to some of the orthodoxy here lends both legitimacy to otherwise homogenous debates - and entertainment. JayB, Peter Puget, and KK will now have to suffice.

 

[Mr_Phil]

Sounds like you need a blowjob.

[Dechristo]

Pity.

 

I enjoyed the dynamic in discourse here with you present. I admire your tenacity in argument in the face of being greatly out-numbered.

 

Also, that your values (Christian-based, presumably) have not acquired the depth necessary to allow you to continue to hang with the "sinners" as "he" did that the faith is based on.

 

 

[KaskadskyjKozak]

New lows are being hit almost daily. In addition to an old self-promoting curmudgeon moderator with reading comprehension issues, there is an overriding drug theme here that I no longer wish to be associated with; it includes K-12 teachers and moderators. If that were not enough, there are jackals who have nothing better to do than speculate endlessly... endlessly on the fate, fortitude, and intellect of 3 good men lost on Mount Hood. Shameful. And then there are regular death threats/wishes expressed against The President of The United States that go unmoderated and unchallenged. It's almost laughable that those on another website are regularly referred to by those here as haters, nazis, reichwingers, etc, etc, etc, when the level of unbridled anger, hysteria, and hate that exists on this very site is so profound.

 

And there is the hypocrisy. Amazing levels of it. Endless posters lambasting soccer moms who drive SUV's, even while they park their own Toyota 4-Runner at the trailhead or fly around the globe in a 747-300 chasing a pointless persuit - because obviously a climber's need for personal fulfillment and cultural enrichment is so much more legitimate than a mother's family transport. A 99%-to-100% lilly-white (based on pics in the gallery) user list lamenting the injustice they help propogate around the world. Amazing. And the materialism!! Oh my! All the latest cams, biners, boots, water filters, tents, ropes, gadgets and gizmos....but pursuing a dream with all the latest and greatest $$$$ gear hardly qualifies as materialism, right? And let's talk about education; there's plenty of edu-snobbery about here, wouldn't you agree? Many of the metro-males on cc.com regularly put their knowledge obscurus and higher degrees on display in leiu of genitalia. And it's not really important to them that the taxes borne by a humble garbage man or a single working mother helped subsidize their education - so long as they can confidently lecture the same about the evils of capitalism and America's complicity in virtually every world-ill recorded since 1776. Of course, many of these same posters were lucky enough to attend a private university. Let's not even discuss the privilege they likely enjoyed on the way to the admissions office! We have land-speculating yacht owners lamenting the plight of the poor in Venezuela, and a plethora of attorneys who, likely, have never missed a meal or a mortgage payment crying about rising health care costs. We have many posters - including a few teachers - who probably spend as much work-time surfing this place as they do performing the duties they are paid to do. And then there are the posters who claim to love freedom and justice - even as they gleefully sing the praises of prosecutions without evidence (La Cross players and Carl Rove come to mind) and call for the imprisonment of network executives. The list goes on.

 

I suppose I haven't been banned up to this point because my direct and unrefined challenges to some of the orthodoxy here lends both legitimacy to otherwise homogenus debates - and entertainment. JayB, Peter Puget, and KK will now have to suffice.

 

are you cutting and running!?! WTF?

[Dechristo]

...there is an overriding drug theme here that I no longer wish to be associated with;

 

This is a Climbing website. Helloooooo???

 

Care to think of, or mention, any sport that doesn't have this element?

[G-spotter]

This is only, what, the 4th time now that Fairweather has stamped his foot, snapped shut his purse, and vowed to pick up his toys and go home. Therefore, he'll be back sooner or later, like herpes.

[AlpineK]

I like to hear what he thinks; at least so I can know what the enemy is thinking.

[lI1|1!]

there are jackals who have nothing better to do than speculate endlessly... endlessly on the fate, fortitude, and intellect of 3 men lost to good weed.

 

 

 

 

And there is the hypocrisy.

 

[TREETOAD]

This is only, what, the 4th time now that Fairweather has stamped his foot, snapped shut his purse, and vowed to pick up his toys and go home. Therefore, he'll be back sooner or later, like herpes.

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Did Lindsay Lohan get a hold of FW's password?

 

 

 

 

 

Oh my!

 

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Many of the metro-males on cc.com regularly put their knowledge obscurus and higher degrees on display in leiu of genitalia.

 

Wait...you want me to post a display of my genitalia?

[G-spotter]

Yeh. He thinks that faking mad will get the cock shots.

[Dave_Schuldt]

This is only, what, the 4th time now that Fairweather has stamped his foot, snapped shut his purse, and vowed to pick up his toys and go home. Therefore, he'll be back sooner or later, like herpes.

 

 

Same ol' FW, see ya soon.

[David Trippett]

La Cross is spelled Lacrosse... Lax for short.... just thought you'd like to know.... it's the national sport of Canada and one of the oldest North American sports! OK, cool, seeya!

[kevbone]

New lows are being hit almost daily. In addition to an old self-promoting curmudgeon moderator with reading comprehension issues, there is an overriding drug theme here that I no longer wish to be associated with; it includes K-12 teachers and moderators. If that were not enough, there are jackals who have nothing better to do than speculate endlessly... endlessly on the fate, fortitude, and intellect of 3 good men lost on Mount Hood. Shameful. And then there are regular death threats/wishes expressed against The President of The United States that go unmoderated and unchallenged. It's almost laughable that those on another website are regularly referred to by those here as haters, nazis, reichwingers, etc, etc, etc, when the level of unbridled anger, hysteria, and hate that exists on this very site is so profound.

 

And there is the hypocrisy. Amazing levels of it. Endless posters lambasting soccer moms who drive SUV's, even while they park their own Toyota 4-Runner at the trailhead or fly around the globe in a 747-300 chasing a pointless persuit - because obviously a climber's need for personal fulfillment and cultural enrichment is so much more legitimate than a mother's family transport. A 99%-to-100% lilly-white (based on pics in the gallery) user list lamenting the injustice they help propogate around the world. Amazing. And the materialism!! Oh my! All the latest cams, biners, boots, water filters, tents, ropes, gadgets and gizmos....but pursuing a dream with all the latest and greatest $$$$ gear hardly qualifies as materialism, right? And let's talk about education; there's plenty of edu-snobbery about here, wouldn't you agree? Many of the metro-males on cc.com regularly put their knowledge obscurus and higher degrees on display in leiu of genitalia. And it's not really important to them that the taxes borne by a humble garbage man or a single working mother helped subsidize their education - so long as they can confidently lecture the same about the evils of capitalism and America's complicity in virtually every world-ill recorded since 1776. Of course, many of these same posters were lucky enough to attend a private university. Let's not even discuss the privilege they likely enjoyed on the way to the admissions office! We have land-speculating yacht owners lamenting the plight of the poor in Venezuela, and a plethora of attorneys who, likely, have never missed a meal or a mortgage payment crying about rising health care costs. We have many posters - including a few teachers - who probably spend as much work-time surfing this place as they do performing the duties they are paid to do. And then there are the posters who claim to love freedom and justice - even as they gleefully sing the praises of prosecutions without evidence (La Cross players and Carl Rove come to mind) and call for the imprisonment of network executives. The list goes on.

 

I suppose I haven't been banned up to this point because my direct and unrefined challenges to some of the orthodoxy here lends both legitimacy to otherwise homogenous debates - and entertainment. JayB, Peter Puget, and KK will now have to suffice.

 

Hey FW...I speak for all the spraying bastards on this site. STFU. Just kidding. I have enjoyed all your posts...even If I dont agree....Dont go home to mommy quite yet.

[counterfeitfake]

You make some excellent points! But, you are a wanker. Fleeing is always the easy way out.

[foraker]

New lows are being hit almost daily. In addition to an old self-promoting curmudgeon moderator with reading comprehension issues, there is an overriding drug theme here that I no longer wish to be associated with; it includes K-12 teachers and moderators. If that were not enough, there are jackals who have nothing better to do than speculate endlessly... endlessly on the fate, fortitude, and intellect of 3 good men lost on Mount Hood. Shameful. And then there are regular death threats/wishes expressed against The President of The United States that go unmoderated and unchallenged. It's almost laughable that those on another website are regularly referred to by those here as haters, nazis, reichwingers, etc, etc, etc, when the level of unbridled anger, hysteria, and hate that exists on this very site is so profound.

 

And there is the hypocrisy. Amazing levels of it. Endless posters lambasting soccer moms who drive SUV's, even while they park their own Toyota 4-Runner at the trailhead or fly around the globe in a 747-300 chasing a pointless persuit - because obviously a climber's need for personal fulfillment and cultural enrichment is so much more legitimate than a mother's family transport. A 99%-to-100% lilly-white (based on pics in the gallery) user list lamenting the injustice they help propogate around the world. Amazing. And the materialism!! Oh my! All the latest cams, biners, boots, water filters, tents, ropes, gadgets and gizmos....but pursuing a dream with all the latest and greatest $$$$ gear hardly qualifies as materialism, right? And let's talk about education; there's plenty of edu-snobbery about here, wouldn't you agree? Many of the metro-males on cc.com regularly put their knowledge obscurus and higher degrees on display in leiu of genitalia. And it's not really important to them that the taxes borne by a humble garbage man or a single working mother helped subsidize their education - so long as they can confidently lecture the same about the evils of capitalism and America's complicity in virtually every world-ill recorded since 1776. Of course, many of these same posters were lucky enough to attend a private university. Let's not even discuss the privilege they likely enjoyed on the way to the admissions office! We have land-speculating yacht owners lamenting the plight of the poor in Venezuela, and a plethora of attorneys who, likely, have never missed a meal or a mortgage payment crying about rising health care costs. We have many posters - including a few teachers - who probably spend as much work-time surfing this place as they do performing the duties they are paid to do. And then there are the posters who claim to love freedom and justice - even as they gleefully sing the praises of prosecutions without evidence (La Cross players and Carl Rove come to mind) and call for the imprisonment of network executives. The list goes on.

 

I suppose I haven't been banned up to this point because my direct and unrefined challenges to some of the orthodoxy here lends both legitimacy to otherwise homogenous debates - and entertainment. JayB, Peter Puget, and KK will now have to suffice.

 

You haven't been banned because every village needs an idiot.

[olyclimber]

the terrorists have clearly won. god save our great country.

[minx]

FW- I don't know why you think that we have to agree with you? I think that many of us read your posts with interest. You at least make us think about our positions even if we disagree with you.

 

The flaw in the argument is the presumption that we shouldn't disagree with you on certain issues. You hold certain position that your presume have no counter argument or at least you can't imagine how any reasonable person would. Well some of us do. Don't go away. Just enjoy the discourse. even those things that you hold to be self evident and w/o counter do have another side.

 

if you go, we'll just have to torment PP mericlessly. think of peter!!!

[Off_White]

I suppose I haven't been banned up to this point because my direct and unrefined challenges to some of the orthodoxy here lends both legitimacy to otherwise homogenous debates - and entertainment. JayB, Peter Puget, and KK will now have to suffice.

 

You haven't been banned because you've never done anything that merits that rather extreme measure and you've always been a reasonable person to deal with.

 

I don't really understand your problem with wide acceptance of pot smoking around here. I'm pretty sure you count Libertarians among your allies in pursuit of a smaller more limited federal government, and they're all about legalization. Unless I misread you, I'd think you support less government intrusion into private lives. I suspect your real objection vis-a-vis the teacher thing is actually their politics, and the drug issue is just a tool, like talking about the spotted owl when your real goal is logging restriction. But then again, I guess we won't be having that debate.

 

As the Olympics moderator, I hope that when summer rolls around you might post a TR or two from that under appreciated range and share a little of your knowledge gained over the years there. It was the climbing that first drew you here, not the arguments, right?

[kevbone]

New lows are being hit almost daily.

 

 

Is not that the entire point of spray?

[mattp]

I'll miss you, you right wing wacko. Meanwhile we'll leave the light on for you.

[kevbone]

MMM....I wonder if he is really gone or just sitting back and lurking and laughing as we all spew our justifications of his undeniable right wing drivel. Maybe we can force him out of hiding. Any ideas?

[CatsClaw]

I can see this is going to be the 2007 incarnation of the muir hut thread...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mtn_mouse]

FW- maybe if you weren't so hysterical or melodramatic when you post, people would react to you more acceptably.