"i hate exit 38 b/c_____"

[minx]

i hear all the time that everyone hates exit 38. tell me why. is that rock? is it the crowds of gapers? the short routes? the bolts?

 

*note: i'm not disagreeing. i just want specificis"

[catbirdseat]

hee hee hee

[RuMR]

cuz i have the potential of running into people like catbird

[ClimbingGirl33]

I don't hate Exit 38 - although in my mind it, or at least the Deception Crags area is a few steps above gym climbing. The people, the types of routes . . .when you don't have a full day and want to climb though - it's better than plastic ;-)

[eric8]

you can climb whole a pitch and still feel like your in the forest

 

the routes i have done at 38 just suck, lack cool defining moves or exposure etc

 

and the rock

 

bugs

 

no views compared index, darrington, places at 11worth

 

hearing the highway from the belay is also nice, trains are SOO much cooler

[Greg_W]

- it's better than plastic ;-)

 

Not hardly, I'd take Index over 38. After work, you can get a few good pitches in before dark.

[Gary_Yngve]

With just a little more driving, you could be at Index instead.

[DPS]

I hate it only because I have forgotten how to rock climb. The 5.6's scare me.

[Peter_Puget]

Eric -

 

Have you been to Bobs and the higher cliffs? Without a doubt they have some great views plus, at least for me, the rock is much better.

[eric8]

no my friend who climbs there frequently tells me bob's is the only place to climb at 38 but also tells me its an hour long hike so I'm like fuk that I'm not hiking for an hour to climb at 38.

[Gripped]

Road n' Rock rates the crags around the country:

 

Leavenworth: 4 stars

Index: 4 stars

Little Si: 4 stars

Deception Crags: 4 stars

Mt. Erie: 3 Stars

Vanatage: 2 Stars

[Off_White]

Ummm, I hate it because even though I've never been there, everyone tells me I should hate it...

[assmonkey]

...Because it's wet all fricking spring and they charge $5 now to park in the upper lot and there is rampant crime in the parking lot and gumbies show up and do stupid shit (I have seen more injuries at 38 than I have at any other climbing area; sprained ankles, falls that didn't need to happen, people dropped while on TR, etc) and there are no gear routes worth talking about and the goddamn bugs jesus the goddamn bugs.

 

I like x38 because it's the closest rock to me, I can be on the rock 45 minutes after leaving my office. The routes suit my short attention span. It's real rock. I know many of the routes now, so it's good for my ego to climb there (the soft ratings also help with that aspect). The routes are all well-bolted, so I feel safe at the beginning of the season when climbing is scary again with the bolts that are spaced 4 feet apart.

 

It's a "like-hate" thing I guess. I still go there and usually have fun. I wish Index or 11worth were a closer drive. Seattle kind of sucks that way, insofar as there not being decent climbing close in to the city.

[Gripped]

people dropped while on TR

[Bug]

The Russians will break into my car and steal my stuff and if I catch them they will hurt my feelings.

[catbirdseat]

My biggest complaint is the rock is so smooth that it feels greasy. The rock at the Bobs is somewhat more textured. Not only that, but the views are better, the bugs are fewer and it is less crowded.

[Jens]

38 sucks but I still climb at the trestle area or nevermind a lot because if I have only 3 hours to kill door to door,I can get a lot of pitches in.

 

And 38 is 100 times better than a pracice rock or pulling plastic indoors in my humble opinion.

 

Once it took me 1 hour and 45minutes to get to index! (from Renton/Issaquah) -traffic. I've darn near made it Leavenworth in that time.

____

38 has climbs up to 5.13 (hard enough for anyone on this Bboard)

[richard_noggin]

The old fart trad suckass I'm standing on my soap box wannabes(Quote by Polish Bob) don't climb there . sure do miss those guys

Whatsamatter nevermind toooo steep for you slabsters

Quiet, no bumblies, old growth timber ,steep routes,big holds, no rock cops, everthing I look for in a crag

DICK

[chirp]

you can climb whole a pitch and still feel like your in the forest

 

the routes i have done at 38 just suck, lack cool defining moves or exposure etc

 

and the rock

 

bugs

 

no views compared index, darrington, places at 11worth

 

hearing the highway from the belay is also nice, trains are SOO much cooler

 

Got VRG?

[Dave_Schuldt]

A bit more of a hike and you can be at Little Si. No trafic noise.

[EWolfe]

I always wanted to post on a hate thread!

[AlpineK]

I hate 38 because Dickhead likes it...ok well I don't hate 38, but there are other places I'd rather climb...Little SI, Index, Leavenworth...

[ken4ord]

I hate 38 because it is barely better than climbing in the gym. Climbing outside should be much better than that.

[richard_noggin]

I hate 38 because Dickhead likes it...ok well I don't hate 38, but there are other places I'd rather climb...Little SI, Index, Leavenworth...

 

I like all the crags I have ever been to, even if aplinewanker climbs there

 

BTW to the geek that sent several virus to this computer

Impentrable firewall

 

This keyboard is located in a passkey boulder gym with several people useing it including a security tec that works for our uncle, he said it took some time to track it down ...we know where it came from ..burning the hard drive of the source was suggested..

 

DICK

[Gary_Yngve]

X32 is nice. Very different from granite or basalt/andesite. I was there this afternoon. Was feeling lazy so I mooched TRs off of everyone instead of leading.