scott_harpell Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I found a good way to work out on the pull-up bar if you are wanting to keep at around 10 reps and are too storng to do this with regular and too weak with one arms (i can't even do one). toss a towel over the bar and grab both sides with one hand and the bar with the other. change hand positions on the towel to vary the difficulty of the pull-up. Quote
kurthicks Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 that's kind of like what Gadd recommends in his new book. i don't have it here, but it somewhere in tbe training section. i think i'll finally give that a try sometime soon. time to pull down! Quote
Toast Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 what's the difference between that and just pulling harder with one hand? Quote
Jim Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Give it a try and you'll see. Change in grip forces you to pull way harder with the arm w/o the towel while using muscles in the towel arm differenly. Ow, ow, my tendonitis hurts just thinking about it. Quote
sobo Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I've always just grabbed my arm just below the wrist with the other hand and done one-armed pull-ups that way. Am I missing something? Is that making it easier, and I'm not being efficient in the work-out? Quote
gabo Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 One thing I've done in the gym is an offshoot of the towel method described. Take a towel to a lat-pull machine, wrap it around the bar where the wire runs to the weights at the midpoint of the towell and pull down on the ends. You can do this two handed to give a different feel for the exercise or grip the towel one handed to work on the one handed method. The great thing about this method is that it gives varying loads, but adjusting your grips on the other towell method should accomplish this as well... probably cheaper if you don't have a gym membership... Quote
jlag Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Not even close. That's an assisted one-arm pull-up. Try doing one with just one arm and you'll see the difference. Quote
lummox Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I've always just grabbed my arm just below the wrist with the other hand and done one-armed pull-ups that way. Am I missing something? Is that making it easier, and I'm not being efficient in the work-out? moving the helper arm closer and closer to your shoulder makes it harder. eventually you will be able to do a one arm. but what is the point? i dont think it helps a huge amount in climbing better. Quote
sobo Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Not even close. That's an assisted one-arm pull-up. Try doing one with just one arm and you'll see the difference. Â I'm quite aware that it's assisted. That wasn't the question. Quote
sobo Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 moving the helper arm closer and closer to your shoulder makes it harder... Â This ^^ was more along the lines of the answer that I was asking for. Not a 1-arm from the get-go, but working towards it. Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Doing a pullup, locking off, and letting go with one hand is also a recommended way of working up to one-arms. Start with just trying to hold the lockoff with one arm, then you want to try and lower yourself with one arm (in a controlled fashion, natch), and work up to lowering yourself and stopping at various points and holding the lockoff, e.g. at 90 degrees, 60, 30, etc. Theoretically, once you've got all that under control, you can start trying to reverse the process. Â It should be noted, though, that a young DFA tried this program for a while and never could crank off a one-arm. But DFA ain't exactly the burliest monkey at the gym, either. Quote
lummox Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 It should be noted, though, that a young DFA . . . never could crank off a one-arm. But DFA ain't exactly the burliest monkey at the gym, either. my previous opinion of you has been dashed to atoms. you are a mere mortal? Quote
colt45 Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Last I heard, Dave Graham can't do a one-arm...but I have met mediocre climbers who can crank out a couple. Depends on who you want to be. Quote
lummox Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Last I heard, Dave Graham can't do a one-arm...but I have met mediocre climbers who can crank out a couple. Depends on who you want to be. i am lummox hear me roar. i used to be able to do a few one arms. i am 20 pounds heavier now --muscle of course . maybe thats why i cant pull the one arms anymore. that muscledrunk strength was handy for some overhanging jug hauls but i dont encounter those routes very much. i dont reckon i will ever jump onto action directe or realization or sumpin. that one arm shit is overrated. Quote
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 Will Gadd has an interesting article on his site, check it out here. Quote
Distel32 Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 one arm pull ups don't make you climb stronger. Â crimp strength and contact strength, damn I want both! Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 you are a mere mortal? Â Let's not go overboard here! Of course Dr. Flash Amazing is not mortal! Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 21, 2004 Posted February 21, 2004 I found a good way to work out on the pull-up bar if you are wanting to keep at around 10 reps and are too storng to do this with regular and too weak with one arms (i can't even do one). toss a towel over the bar and grab both sides with one hand and the bar with the other. change hand positions on the towel to vary the difficulty of the pull-up. i think that's also in the how to climb 5.12 book ... Quote
scott_harpell Posted February 21, 2004 Author Posted February 21, 2004 one arm pull ups don't make you climb stronger. Â crimp strength and contact strength, damn I want both! Â well locking off on thirty fingerlocks/pin scars in a row certainly seems to use the same muscles, so I am gonna keep doin it mmmmk? Quote
RuMR Posted February 22, 2004 Posted February 22, 2004 put it this way, distel....bein' able to bust the one arm can't hurt, right? plus, its a hella party trick, no?? Quote
colt45 Posted February 23, 2004 Posted February 23, 2004 well locking off on thirty fingerlocks/pin scars in a row certainly seems to use the same muscles, so I am gonna keep doin it mmmmk? Â Of course, footwork is another option. But I would guess that really hard cracks (eg City Park?) do require some serious arm strength. For climbs below 5.12 at least, it seems like honed footwork would be a lot more useful. Extreme strength could conceivably be disadvantageous if it encourages poor technique. Â In terms of what is higher yield and more fun (for me), I would always choose to do more climbing! Quote
Distel32 Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 put it this way, distel....bein' able to bust the one arm can't hurt, right? plus, its a hella party trick, no?? Â doesn't hurt, but there are about twenty other ways you could maximize training time that would have much greater effects on your climbing. Quote
Dru Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 the cherry stem knot is a much more effective party trick. it tells girlz what you can do with your tongue whereas with a one-arm it just makes them wonder why you have one arm that is so strong Quote
lummox Posted February 24, 2004 Posted February 24, 2004 the cherry stem knot is a much more effective party trick. it tells girlz what you can do with your tongue whereas with a one-arm it just makes them wonder why you have one arm that is so strong if you are having drinks with cherries in them it tells girls that you are a fag. Quote
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