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carolyn

What would you do?

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So, this weekend I started setting up a climb that another gruop was tearing down. It was a guided group. The person guiding the group I feel is rude, unprofessional, AND unsafe. My observations are not coming from this one day, but nearly 2 yrs of close encounters with 'em on a regular basis.

 

So, the guide is ending the day with some obviously upset customers. His rope is in the way of our set up. I leave it there for a while, then move it.

 

Before I could say anything, he left without the rope. Gone...poof...vanish! I coiled it up and put it out of our way fully expecting him to come back and collect it.

 

Hours later....the rope is still there.

 

We leave and bring the rope with us.

 

Do I keep it or not?

 

Its a nice, new, beefy bluewater rope. Good for a number or purposes around here. My conscience says give it back. My brain says, "fuck that".

 

Sooooo? Bad Karma to keep it?

 

DIscuss!

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i'd give it back. cuz if you lost your rope you would hope someone gave it back.

 

but i dont believe in karma, maybe the golden rule, but not karma.

 

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Give it back. You will feel better about yourself for being the "bigger man" wink.gif so to speek.

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PONCHO&LEFTY said:

KARMA is not real

 

"what goes around comes around"

 

the question is not if you believe in Karma

but what does Karma believe about you confused.gif

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Me? I would give it back, 2 wrongs don't make a right. I would have left it, not knowing where the fella went and expecting the person to return though. Good luck with your decision.

 

Bill

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Dru said:

PONCHO&LEFTY said:

KARMA is not real

 

"what goes around comes around"

 

the question is not if you believe in Karma

but what does Karma believe about you confused.gif

Spraysage strike again wink.gif

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Trade with Ade and give the rude dude the vomit soaked rope. Or ask Ade to vomit on the one you have. yelrotflmao.gif

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If the guide service is a company, as opposed to an individual, you could:

 

Take the rope to the company office.

 

Ask to speak to the company president (or have an appointment ahead of time).

 

Return the rope to him explaining how you ended up with it.

 

Also mention during the conversation how you, as a fellow climber, found his company to be rude, unprofessional, and unsafe.

 

 

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If you don't give it back, you'll never be able to be righteous about that guy's dickheadedness again.

 

Give it back. Unless that's inconvenient. If so, just call them and tell 'em where they can pick it up.

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vomit on it. the_finger.gif

 

 

actually. who the fuck needs a rope like that unless your wanting to rig up a killer swing over the river?

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Bug, you have the winning response!

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Figger8, you are dead on. Thanks thumbs_up.gif

 

I gave the guy a call this morning. He insisted he would never 'lose' a rope. It actually took some coercing to get him to look and see if he was missing one. Didnt seem to care much that it was missing... said it was easy for him to replace and tax deductable. rolleyes.gif

 

I will feel better when its completely off my hands;)

 

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Damn, you guys are a lot nicer than me. I would have left that rope in the dirt and not even thought about calling the dolt.

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