b-rock Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 RobBob said: Dumb, but he's a "believer" type. Understatement of the year! Quote
minx Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 Fence_Sitter said: minx said: Does it not occur to anyone but me that Fence Sitter's name pretty much says it all.  He can't say yes or no. He's stuck in the middle.  whereas you and you partisan driven logic is so far cast to the left that you sounds like marx  my opinion is not driven by partisan logic. this is one single issue we are discussing. Not a party line. Yes, i frequently have left leaning opinions but they are not derived w/o a thorough consideration of all the facts i can find.  After considering the information that i've found on the situation, i feel deceived by our president. That's the way it is...nothing to do w/partisan leanings.  Just b/c my opinion is not the same as yours, does not mean that i am wrong. Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 for the record: Â Trask was the first to mention Democrats. then, a few posts later from FS: Â but matt i can say the same about liberals...you blame bush...i blame bush...i blame clinton...you justify clinton because of a partisan driven blindness that you suggest that i alone have... so FS, who was it that brought up the partisan issue? Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 j_b said: then where is the proof that bush is lying about WMD? (and remember i am not saying that he isn't) i have shown you the proof for clinton's lies (you still dont believe he is fallible) you have not shown me one piece of evidence and expect me to go from waiting to find the truth, to beleiving he was lying about WMD... show me the proof and i will believe... as i have said i am waiting for proof before judgment... Â there is no 100% proof. this is where you fail to apply the same standard to kosovo and clinton (about which i did not say one way or the other). Â there is however plenty of convincing evidence that our own intelligence agencies (including the brit's) did not believe in iraq being a clear and imminent threat because of wmd's or links to al quaeda. there is plenty of evidence that 'documents' were known to be doctored way before they were presented, that impartial and respected arms inspectors did not believe in an active program, etc ... Â then show me the evidence... Quote
erik Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 i dont think goat or any of the other "real" conservatives would actually enter into this fray....cuz their boy is a liar and since that is the topic at hand, what are they gonna do admit it? Â ha! Â Â Quote
JGowans Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 good thread this. i just checked in and nice to see some healthy shite slinging going on. i'm going to sit front and center, munch my pop corn, sip my $8 beers, check out the chicks with the "next round" cards, and wait for the next mud pie to be lobbed overhead. Â ding ding. bush is a lying bastard you conservative wankers!! prove me otherwise. Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 i climbed ranier in 3 hours and 22 minutes last summer...prove me otherwise... Quote
RobBob Posted May 15, 2003 Posted May 15, 2003 I'm playing trask while he's out. Â You guys suk my choad. Eat balls, asseyes. Quote
AlpineK Posted May 16, 2003 Posted May 16, 2003 I'm a little upset. I come home and there's only 4 pages of spray. I was expecting at least 6 pages. You guys are a bunch of slackers.  Shit man I ground up 8 stumps, drove to W Seattle, Redondo Beach, and the U district.  I expect more productivity....spray god dam it  Clinton lied about a blow job Bush lied about WMD Dan - lied about climbing Rainier  Of those lies GW's lie is the one that got people killed.  BTW Fence Sitter you make no sense whatsoever. Quote
iain Posted May 16, 2003 Posted May 16, 2003 I feel sorry for Powell having to sit in front of the UN and crank out that crap. He is one of the few I think many had a shred of respect for. But now even this is difficult. Quote
allthumbs Posted May 16, 2003 Posted May 16, 2003 AlpineK said: I'm a little upset. I come home and there's only 4 pages of spray. I was expecting at least 6 pages. You guys are a bunch of slackers.  Shit man I ground up 8 stumps, drove to W Seattle, Redondo Beach, and the U district.  I expect more productivity....spray god dam it  Clinton lied about a blow job Bush lied about WMD Dan - lied about climbing Rainier  Of those lies GW's lie is the one that got people killed.  BTW Fence Sitter you make no sense whatsoever. Quote
Gaston_Lagaffe Posted May 16, 2003 Posted May 16, 2003 Hey, remember this? So, IFF WMDs was a lie, then what other US interest(s) remain? Quote
erik Posted May 16, 2003 Posted May 16, 2003 Gaston_Lagaffe said: Hey, remember this? So, IFF WMDs was a lie, then what other US interest(s) remain?  kool aid   Quote
Fairweather Posted May 17, 2003 Posted May 17, 2003 Â I wonder if these ladies care about the reasons we came. Those plastic bags contain the exumed remains of their family members arrested by Saddam. Quote
Rodchester Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 1. In his State of the Union Address Bush said that Iraq had: "...up to 300,000 warheads, 500 tons of chemical weapons, 25000 liters of anthrax, 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin and an advanced nuclear weapons program." Â This quote does not say that these weapons are in Iraq. The UN will confirm this too, these are weapons that have not been accounted for by the Saddam regime. Saddam disclosed that he had them, and then refused to account for them. Â Where are they? Â Maybe Saddam lied to us, saying that he had them and he in fact didn't. Oh man, wouldn't that be funny. Â (Too bad innocents died) Quote
Jim Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 Â This quote does not say that these weapons are in Iraq. The UN will confirm this too, these are weapons that have not been accounted for by the Saddam regime. Saddam disclosed that he had them, and then refused to account for them. Â Where are they? Â Maybe Saddam lied to us, saying that he had them and he in fact didn't. Oh man, wouldn't that be funny. Â (Too bad innocents died) Â Way wrong. This was the Bushy's (wild) estimate of what Iraq had - Iraq said they had nothing (which was likely not true). The point of Bush's state of the union address was to scare people into supporting his war. Notice how now you hear no talk of WMD or terrorist links. They lied about it to drum up support among the public and media. And it worked. The media tagged along for the ride without any critical analysis, which is typical. Quote
allthumbs Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 So what? It was good TV for a month and beat watching "Friends" re-runs. Quote
Jim Posted May 20, 2003 Posted May 20, 2003 trask said: So what? It was good TV for a month and beat watching "Friends" re-runs. Â Sad, but likely the true assessment of much of the public. Quote
allthumbs Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 Show me the proof. That story is contrived. That choad a democrat or what? Quote
erik Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 NO TRASK YOU AND YOUR FUCKING DUMB FUCK REPUBS HAVE CREATED THIS. YOU SHOW US YOUR FUCKING PROOF. Â AND WHO GIVES A FUCK IF HE IS A DEMO OR A REPUB. Â BUSH AND HIS FUCKING ASSHOLES HAVE CREATED A SITUATION THAT WILL POSSIBLY RUIN THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE WORLD, SHIFTNG IT TOWARDS SMALLER GROUPS. Â BLIND PATRIOTISM IS A DISEASE THIS COUNTRY SUFFERS FROM IN MASS PROPORTIONS. Â VERY GOOD LINK MATT! Â Â Quote
erik Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 AND ANOTHER THING TRASK, YOU SAY THE STORY IS CONTRIVED? IT WAS HIS SPEECH TO CONGRESS. HOW IS THAT CONTRIVED? Â YOU DONT HAVE TO ANSWER, CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL DONT HAVE A TRUTHFUL ANSWER! Â Quote
allthumbs Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 "What'd you say Erik? I'm sorry, I missed what you said; I was busy scratching my ass." Quote
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