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Icicle & Trinity Fire Daily Update Thursday, July 29, 2004, 9:00 A.M. Icicle Fire: The Northern Rockies Incident Management Team turned over management of the Icicle and Trinity fires to an Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest Incident Management Team (Incident Commander: Rick Long) today. The fire camp will remain at the Leavenworth National Fish Hatchery, but the number of fire personnel and other resources will be reduced. There are currently two helicopters, three fire engines, and 305 personnel assigned to the fire. Information about the Icicle and Trinity Fires is available by calling (509) 548-6977 ext. 275. (Fax 509 548-5817) The fire continues to quietly smolder within the fire perimeter. Crews will continue to patrol the fire area putting out any hot spots they locate close to the firelines. They will also work on fire rehabilitation including constructing erosion control diversions on fire lines, repairing stream crossings, and seeding grass. Specific concerns or questions about fire rehabilitation may be addressed to Don Youkey at the Leavenworth Ranger District. The temporary flight restriction which closed the airspace to non-fire related aircraft was rescinded today. An inversion is trapping some smoke in the valleys and river corridors from the 14,910 acre Pot Peak Fire as well as several other regional fires. Weather conditions are predicted to change by Sunday, lifting smoke and clearing the air. All Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek were opened as well as several popular trail routes and climbing areas in the drainage. However, some areas south of Icicle Creek have remained closed in order to provide for public safety while firefighting efforts continue. These include the following popular locations: Trout Lake Trail # 1555 and Trout Lake, Eightmile-Trout #1554 from Trout Creek to Windy Pass, Jack Ridge Trail #1557, Mt Cashmere, Lake Ruth, Lake Victoria and the west and north sides of Windy Pass. The Trinity Fire, which started on July 22nd, is located 3 miles north of Trinity (50 miles north of Leavenworth) in the Glacier Peak Wilderness. Fire size remains at approximately 45 acres and is 95% contained. Forty firefighters are assigned to the fire. The temporary flight restriction which closed airspace to non-fire related aircraft was rescinded today. The Chiwawa Valley Trail (#1550) in the vicinity of the Trinity Fire remains closed. The Buck Cr. (#1513) and Phelps Cr. (#1511) Trails are open. On the Leavenworth and Lake Wenatchee Ranger District, campfires are restricted to established fire rings in developed campgrounds only. Outside of these developed campgrounds, all other fires and use of charcoal briquettes are prohibited. FIRE DANGER REMAINS VERY HIGH!!

Icicle & Trinity Fire Daily Update Wednesday, July 28, 2004, 9:00 A.M. Icicle Fire: The Northern Rockies Incident Management Team will be working with an Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest Incident Management Team today in preparation of the forest taking over the fire tomorrow. The fire camp will remain at the Leavenworth National Fish Hatchery, but the number of fire personnel will be reduced. There are currently seven helicopters, three fire engines, and 322 personnel assigned to the fire. Beginning Thursday, July 29th, information about the Icicle and Trinity Fires will still be available by calling (509) 548-6977 ext. 275. (Fax 509 548-5817) The fire continues to quietly smolder within the fire perimeter. Crews will continue to patrol the fire area putting out any hot spots they locate close to the firelines. They will also work on fire rehabilitation including constructing erosion control diversions on fire lines, repair stream crossings, and seed grass. Specific concerns or questions about fire rehabilitation may be addressed to Steve Willet at the Leavenworth Ranger District. A temporary flight restriction which closes the airspace to non-fire related aircraft to 10,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. An inversion is trapping smoke in the valleys and river corridors from the 14,910 acre Pot Peak Fire as well as several other regional fires. Weather conditions are predicted to change on Sunday, lifting smoke and clearing the air. All Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek were opened as well as several popular trail routes and climbing areas in the drainage. However, some areas south of Icicle Creek have remained closed in order to provide for public safety while firefighting efforts continue. These include the following popular locations: Trout Lake Trail # 1555 and Trout Lake, Eightmile-Trout #1554 from Trout Creek to Windy Pass, Jack Ridge Trail #1557, Mt Cashmere, Lake Ruth, Lake Victoria and the west and north sides of Windy Pass. The Trinity Fire, which started on July 22nd, is located 3 miles north of Trinity (50 miles north of Leavenworth) in the Glacier Peak Wilderness. Fire size remains at approximately 45 acres and is 95% contained. Fifty three firefighters and support helicopters are assigned to the fire. A temporary flight restriction to 11,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. The Chiwawa Valley Trail (#1550) in the vicinity of the Trinity Fire remains closed. The Buck Cr. (#1513) and Phelps Cr. (#1511) Trails are open. On the Leavenworth and Lake Wenatchee Ranger District, campfires are restricted to established fire rings in developed campgrounds only. Outside of these developed campgrounds, all other fires and use of charcoal briquettes are prohibited. FIRE DANGER REMAINS VERY HIGH!!

Icicle & Trinity Fire Daily Update Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 9:00 A.M. Icicle Fire: The fire continues to burn brush, pine needles, etc. that are deep in rocks, but well within the containment lines. Open flames were observed in the rocky slopes on the west flank of the fire. Crews will continue to patrol the fire area, putting out hot spots as cooler temperatures reduce the fire behavior. Rehabilitation of the fire area will include making sure that water will be diverted from the fire lines, stream crossings repaired, and some seeding to grow grass. Rehabilitating the fire area will continue through the fall. Specific concerns or questions may be addressed to Steve Willet, Leavenworth Ranger District. A temporary flight restriction which closes the airspace to non-fire related aircraft to 10,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. All Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek were opened as well as several popular trail routes and climbing areas in the drainage. However, some areas south of Icicle Creek have remained closed in order to provide for public safety while firefighting efforts continue. These include the following popular locations: Trout Lake Trail # 1555 and Trout Lake, Eightmile-Trout #1554 from Trout Creek to Windy Pass, Jack Ridge Trail #1557, Mt Cashmere, Lake Ruth, Lake Victoria and the west and north sides of Windy Pass. There are currently seven helicopters, three fire engines, and 354 personnel assigned to the fire. The Trinity Fire, which started on July 22nd, is located 3 miles north of Trinity (50 miles north of Leavenworth) in the Glacier Peak Wilderness. Fire size remains at approximately 45 acres and is 80% contained. Fifty two firefighters and support helicopters are assigned to the fire. A temporary flight restriction to 11,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. The Chiwawa Valley Trail (#1550) in the vicinity of the Trinity Fire remains closed. The Buck Cr. (#1513) and Phelps Cr. (#1511) Trails are open. On the Leavenworth and Lake Wenatchee Ranger District, campfires are restricted to established fire rings in developed campgrounds only. Outside of these developed campgrounds, all other fires and use of charcoal briquettes are prohibited. EVEN WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES, FIRE DANGER REMAINS VERY HIGH. Please be careful!

News Release For Immediate Release July 26, 2004 Forest Service to Open Campgrounds along Icicle Creek Leavenworth, WA – Today, in conjunction with the Chelan County Commissioners lifting the Evacuation Order for the Upper Icicle Creek drainage, the Wenatchee National Forest will also be opening part of the forest area that was closed on July 16th due to the Icicle Creek Fire. All Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek will be opened as well as several popular trail routes and climbing areas in the Icicle Creek drainage. All areas north of the Icicle Creek Road are now open. The shoreline along the south side of Icicle Creek is also open to allow people fishing to wade the creek and stand on the opposite shoreline. A closure remains in effect until further notice for a larger area south of Icicle Creek. This area closure includes the following popular locations: ∑ Trout Lake Trail #1555 and Trout Lake ∑ Eightmile-Trout Lake Trail #1554 from Trout Creek to Windy Pass ∑ Jack Ridge Trail #1557 ∑ Lake Ruth ∑ Lake Victoria ∑ The west and north sides of Windy Pass Mt. Cashmere will also remain closed to climbing. For more information, or to view a map of the closure area, contact the Leavenworth and Lake Wenatchee Ranger Districts office at 600 Sherbourne in Leavenworth or call the office at (509) 548-6977.

Icicle & Trinity Fire Daily Update Monday, July 26, 2004, 9:00 A.M. Icicle Fire: The fire actively burned within containment lines yesterday. Helicopters were used to cool larger hot spots as firefighters put out small fires fanned by windy, dry conditions. Today, crews will continue to patrol the fire area, putting out hot spots as cooler temperatures moderate fire behavior. There are currently seven helicopters, three fire engines, and 411 personnel assigned to the fire. Unauthorized aircraft, jeopardizing the safety of the firefighters, again violated the closed air space around the fire. A temporary flight restriction, which closes the airspace to non-fire, related aircraft to 10,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. Two firefighters from the Baker River Interagency Hotshot crew were injured yesterday when they were looking for smoldering fire in a steep, rocky area. Part of a large boulder broke off, knocking the two firefighters down the mountainside. Both were air-lifted from the scene. Brian Takeuchi was treated and released at a local medical facility while Jeremy Dempsey was transferred by air ambulance to Harbor View Medical Center in Seattle with a fractured pelvis. Today, in conjunction with the Chelan County Commissioners, the Evacuation Order for the Upper Icicle Creek drainage will be lifted. The Wenatchee National Forest will also be opening part of the area that was closed on July 16th due to the Icicle Creek Fire. All Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek will be opened as well as several popular trail routes and climbing areas in the drainage. However, some areas south of Icicle Creek will remain closed in order to provide for public safety while firefighting efforts continue. The Trinity Fire, which started on July 22nd, is located 3 miles north of Trinity (50 miles north of Leavenworth) in the Glacier Peak Wilderness. Fire size remains at approximately 45 acres and is 65% contained. Fiftyseven firefighters and support helicopters are assigned to the fire. A temporary flight restriction to 11,000 feet for five miles around the fire remains in effect. The Chiwawa Valley Trail (#1550) in the vicinity of the Trinity Fire remains closed. The Buck Cr. (#1513) and Phelps Cr. (#1511) Trails are open. On the Leavenworth Ranger District, campfires are restricted to established fire rings in developed campgrounds only. Outside of these developed campgrounds, all other fires and use of charcoal briquettes are prohibited. The Lake Wenatchee area has no current fire restrictions. EVEN WITH COOLER TEMPERATURES, FIRE DANGER REMAINS VERY HIGH. Please be careful!

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS A FINISH!!!!!!!! Hats off to Landis too!

There are such thing as butt implants??????? Why didn't she do what Bronco did and do lots and lots of deadlifts.

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Icicle Fire Daily Update Thursday, July 22, 2004, 9:00 A.M. The Northern Rockies Incident Management Team (Bennett) continues to direct all fire fighting resources from the fire camp at the Leavenworth National Fish Hatchery. Cooperators on the fire include the Washington Department of Natural Resources, the Commissioners, Sheriff’s Department and Fire Protection District of Chelan County. The wetting effects of Monday’s rain is expected to be gone by today. Firefighter tactics have changed to building direct line adjacent to the fire’s edge. The decision was spurred by the arrival of highly experienced hand crews and the slower fire activity. The fire continued to stay within the desired perimeter. The fire remains at approximately 778 acres and is 55 percent contained. Expected containment is July 25th dependent upon favorable weather conditions. There are 473 fire personnel assigned to the fire. Other resources include eight helicopters, six engines, and two dozers. The Snow Creek Trailhead remains open but the Icicle Creek Road is closed just beyond the trailhead. All trails and spur roads intersecting the Icicle Creek Road above the roadblock are closed. Rock climbing opportunities are available at Snow Creek Wall and down valley of the road closure. The seven Forest Service campgrounds along Icicle Creek Road remain closed, however Icicle RV Resort is open. The Level 3 Evacuation Notice and area closure remains in effect. An evaluation of this evacuation order is being conducted daily. A temporary flight restriction to 10,000 feet above sea level remains in effect for a five-mile radius around the fire. On the Leavenworth Ranger District, campfires are restricted to established fire rings in developed campgrounds only. Outside of these developed campgrounds, all other fires and use of charcoal briquettes are prohibited. The Lake Wenatchee area has no current fire restrictions. Please continue to help prevent wild land fires.

Dane, I actually have quite a bit of respect for all the people involved in that they have remained somewhat civil in what seems to be very heated topic. What I don't think is necessary is to liter a forum who's main purpose is trip reports with countless threads that easily could have remained in one thread. Additionally, you took it upon yourself to call out one person in particular in the thread that was moved. It appears that you have taken it upon yourself to delete people's opinions on your board so they are posting them here now. This is nothing person, nothing to do with your opinion on the subject, I'm just telling you that I don't want that forum litered with stuff that isn't trip report beta related.

Someone posts a TR on a brand new route they have put up and this is what they get in return. Get a clue.

It was moved to spray.

Bronco, I need you help here, where do you put your deadlift weight in there? 24.7!!! LOL!! This cracks me up, I go between 185 and 190, so one day I'm overweight and another I'm not.

And go do some deadlifts suckas!!!!!

I believe the one on Snoqualmie happened around 1992 or so, because I was in SAR training when that happened. I remember talking to a friend who was involved and he said the plane somehow came to rest underneith a boulder. I could be wrong about the date though. There is another wreckage on the side of Mt. Enumclaw which happened around 1993. I was on that recovery and it was pretty nasty, the plane slammed into the cliffside and fell a good 500 feet.

Yes, they sell skin products, like moisterizers and crap. They are closed right now, will have to do this tomorrow.

A growing phenomena on this website is people registering names, not to post, but to post the URL of their online business, which in turn helps their google search engine ranking. I'm getting tired of these people doing this, and I'm a bit bored, so it's time to do something that a lot of cc.commer seem good at, which is having fun at someone elses expense. The website is skinstore dot com and you can find the phone number there. Please post transcripts of your call. Winner gets their own private spray forum on cc.com for a day.

I never imagined I would be getting my cycling news from GregW. Greg you didn't happen to notice that they were wearing spandex and shaving their legs did you? You know what happens when you watch a pussy sport right? That feeling you have in your groin right now, it's you testicals finding their way to your abdomen to begin the transformation to ovaries. LeMond has had a beef with Lance for a long time and it's not entirely clear why. I guess he doesn't think it was possible for someone to come back from cancer that almost killed him to win the tour, even though Greg came back from a near fatal hunting accident to win the tour.

Knock it off.

With a bad case of Giardia and no toilet paper left, Frank has an idea.

Nothing like a friendly game of Snaffles Up!!

WILL FUCKENA!!!!

Although I currently don't have any involvement with the WCC I thought I'd help clear up some confusion, but first a little history. The Access Fund, based in Boulder, is a national level non profit agency that protects climbers right by working with land managers and property owners. The agency itself only consists of less than a dozen employees, with the rest being volunteers. There is a board of directors, which you can find more out on their website, but at one point local climber Mark Kroese was the president. There is typically one or two coordinators for each state. Wa state is represented by Andy Fitz, who has done an incredible job with the limited amount of time he has (he is also an assistant state attorney general). The problem with the Access Fund is that they don't have the resources with their limited number of employees to give much attention to things that don't have serious access implications. It makes more sense financially for the AF to have a few employees that give out grants and such than to have more employees but no money to give out. It was suggested by the Access Fund, considering the size of WA, the number or climbers and areas, and the number of growing issues, that we form our own coalition to coordinate climbing issues and WA with guidance from the AF. What needs to be made clear is at this point the WCC is an idea, it is a handful of people trying to get it organized who are route developers and/or have experience dealing with access issues, and that's why many people haven't heard about it. There is no membership yet because there is no organization. This meeting is the first opportunity for people to get involved in the formation in this organization and have a say in how it may develop and may serve the climbers of WA.