ScaredSilly

If ya did not puke it was only a mild case of AMS. Bummer though you were close.

The problem is that the park does not have cultural resource person on staff who goes out looking for this type of evidence. They come in once there is a need. More than likely a climber noticed it and asked. This set the wheels in motion.

There is now a followup post: Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: Closures Hello all, The current climbing closure encompasses the following routes: Llamasutra Wannabe Llamas Llama Enlightenment When Llamas Need Protection Entering Relativity Some rock art was found in the middle of these climbing routes. Since the discovery of these drawings there have been numerous meetings at the site to evaluate and determine their authenticity as to wether or not they were drawn by Native Americans. During this evaluation process Management has called for the aforementioned routes to be closed temporarily. OPRD is committed to providing world class outdoor recreation within its parks, and we are also comitted to preserving Oregon's rich cultural heritage. The goal is to create a management plan so that the two can exist harmoniously. So again, thank you for your cooperation and patience regarding these closures. Julian T Colesberry Park Ranger Smith Rock State Park 541-604-4362

Take less crap and there is no need to haul. For instance, bring a bivy sac and sleep on your pack. Wear all your clothes including rain pants. No need for a bag or pad. Yeah you might be a little cold but it will sure beat trying to haul a pack. How much water are you planning on bringing? We got some near the bivy at the start of the route. Seems like we did not get any more water while on route though there was some at the mid way bivy. We still had enough so went past the drips. Kinda regretted that decision as it was much later before we got the chance to fill up again during the descent. BTW the upper pitches are pretty steep as well. Which be more of hauling issue than the lower pitches.

You need to figure out what the constitution is about. You are entering a PRIVATE business. If FF wanted you to strip naked an wear down pasties in order to shop at their store they could. The constitution is about how the GOVERNMENT and the PEOPLE interact. As FF policy - what is the big deal? Some shops do allow food or drink, some make wear shoes and a shirt, some make you ring a bell before coming through the door. Some even say we reserve the right to refuse service.

It used to be that you could sleep in your car if you were arriving late and leaving early. Probably no longer an option. Park at the waste station just down from Paradise again arrive late, leave early.

Each May for the past 15 plus years I run up a couloir on Mt Olympus (in Oootah). It is an easy climb with a great bum slide. I named the couloir after a friend who climbed it well before I could wipe my own butt. The climb is mostly a way to stretch ones legs but it is also a pilgrimage as on top I often toast friends who are no longer around. This spring was kinda grim as we found gear from a person who fell into the couloir and died. We toasted them at the top. Otherwise I try to get out to Rainier each spring. On average I have managed to do every other year for the past 26 years.

Most of those on the rescue were dirt bags that had already served their 2 years. PS I am proud to say that some of those dirt bags are good friends who I have had the privilege to share a rope with on many of occasion. PSS Rumors are that there is movie documentary in the works.

Cool, looks like you got some good weather. The 5.5 X pitch must have been terrifying.

Yuk! At least the guy did not drop trowel as well.

More states need to have this type of legislation -

Does anyone else find the name ironic. First we have Camalots - a very nice play on cams and what they do. Also on the well know fictitious city of Camelot of medieval times. Which some take the liberty and add mystical creatures such as dragons to. BTW While the double axial patent has expired other parts "I believe" have had subsequent patents due to improvements.

For two person teams I typically carry coils, but with three person teams we do not carry coils because if an end person goes in the middle person takes the load while the other person drops their end. I have dropped into a crevasse at the same time as my partner. The only thing that "saved" us was 1) they were different crevasses 2) we both went into our armpits 3) they were small cracks.

I have climbed in October. Excellent ascent - one of my best. Had the whole mountain to myself, not another living soul to be had. It was a lovely Sunday morning on the Spur. A couple days before it was stormy so the cold temps made for excellent conditions actually had ice up high on the hill. I went up and over and then traversed around on my climb that in itself was great. As suggested above, wait until you come out to make a final decision.

As of the time of my post there is a link to the above story on CNN.

Congrats, now get home and mow the lawn and finish your honey do list ;-).

We did Apron strings to merci me and finished on the dike. No aiders required, I guess you can always French free.

Wow - descent reporting other than noting they hiked to the summit.

I hope they dropped of a copy of Playboy with the supplies. I am sure he had plenty of time to read the articles. Props to all.

Did ya even break a sweat?? Props.

I would not worry about it - if the winds pick up and trash your tent you can utilize the public shelter. Might not get any sleep but at least you will have shelter from the storm.

Wow, it looks like it slid 4-6 weeks earlier than last year.

Accidents are spooky. Sometimes it is best to just go down, buy a 6 pack, and enjoy the base. FWIW Last year after screwing around on top until noon we cam down the DC. Pretty sloppy and a one bridge was suspect but all in all reasonable. Of course conditions vary year by year. So do not limit yourself to precise turn around times.

In summer it is rubble.

More recently I have found donating old rags especially large collections to my local library and taking the tax right off to be much more satisfying. A couple years ago I gave my library well over 600 mags for their stacks and got $1000+ tax right off.