Kat_Roslyn

So, I have a similar problem. A bear chewed my camera last year and I have some pictures on the card that I want to see. But I don't know anything about technology. It is a cannon digital camera, that now has teeth marks in it. That's all I know.

Thank you. Sounds pleasant. Is the middle finger buttress on the Amphitheatre right? ( i don't have a book around)

At least she died doing what she loved.

How was the rock on the Monk Big Wave? & What aspect of Amphitheatre is Ka bab?

for 2007?

When is this coming out?

larabee

Aug. 14, 2007 | Science Older climbers face uphill battle on Mount Everest Vince Stricherz vinces@u.washington.edu In this era of not surrendering to age, some claim that 60 is the new 40. But new research shows that 60 year olds cannot keep up with 40 year olds on Mount Everest and suffer a sharply higher chance of dying if they do reach the summit. The study shows that among 2,211 climbers during the spring seasons from 1990 through 2005, the overall chances of reaching Everest's summit were nearly 31 percent, but they dropped to 13 percent for climbers in their 60s. The overall chances of dying on the mountain were 1.5 percent, but they more than tripled to 5 percent for climbers 60 and older. The researchers did not find any gender differences. "Before we did this analysis, we didn't know whether age would be important. Younger climbers have a physical advantage but probably have less experience than older climbers," said Raymond Huey, a University of Washington biology professor. "We used to refer to this advantage of age as the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar effect. As he got older, his physical skills declined but he was so smart and experienced that he was able to compensate and still play professional basketball at the highest levels. "Unfortunately for older climbers, that effect does not apply on the world's highest mountain," said Huey, lead author of a paper describing the research published online Aug. 15 in the Royal Society journal Biology Letters. The Royal Society is the United Kingdom's national science academy. Other authors are Richard Salisbury, a database analyst and mountaineering historian in Ann Arbor, Mich., and statisticians Jane-Ling Wang and Meng Mao at the University of California, Davis. The findings run counter to the notion published in a medical journal in 2000 that people in their 60s could safely climb peaks of about 26,300 feet. Mount Everest is about 29,030 feet. "I think they were overstating the safety factor. I think it's much more risky," Huey said. Huey suspects there are two possible reasons why fewer climbers older than 40 reach the summit and successfully make it down again -- declining physical capacities and a higher degree of caution that causes them to stop short of their goal of reaching the summit. "By the time you are 50 or 60, you've probably been banged up once or twice. You know it hurts, and you've seen consequences of losing fingers or toes to frostbite," Huey said. "So older climbers are probably more cautious, but I can't determine whether it's greater caution, reduced fitness or a combination of the two that explains the lower success rate for older climbers." The research, funded by the National Science Foundation, consisted of a statistical analysis of climbers since 1990, looking at the influence of age and gender on success and death rates. Much of the data come from Elizabeth Hawley, who chronicled climbing expeditions in the Himalayas and for four decades conducted interviews that provided a large historical archive of mountaineering information. The analysis found virtually no difference between men and women on Everest -- there are many fewer women climbers, but their rates of reaching the summit and of dying are very similar to those for men. But age differences were stark. Those at least 60 years old who started up the mountain had a death rate at least three times higher than younger climbers. For those who actually reached the summit, 25 percent died before completing the descent, compared with 2.2 percent for younger climbers. However, because the sample of older climbers is relatively small, the actual difference could be exaggerated or understated, Huey said. Many more people in general are trying to climb Everest than, say, 30 years ago -- there are reports that just this spring more than 600 people reached the summit. The first two climbers to scale Everest, Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, were 33 and 39 when they succeeded in 1953. For many years, only about 20 percent of the climbers were older than 40, and those older than 60 were very rare. But the scientists found that in recent years nearly half of all climbers are at least 40, and one of every 30 is at least 60 years old. Until now, these older climbers had no way of knowing about how age correlates with their chances of success and death. Huey believes it is likely more older climbers are now attempting to climb Everest because guided expeditions are readily available and because many older climbers have sufficient disposable income to pay for those guided trips. "Older people are usually healthier now than they were 50 years ago," he said. "Many fewer people smoke and health care is better, so increasingly older people are participating in a variety of sports." But, as the researchers concluded in their paper, "On Everest, youth and vigor trump age and experience." ### For more information, contact Huey at (206) 543-1505 or hueyrb@u.washington.edu

I have the rest of August and September off if anyone wants to go climb something. I can climb fine, have rack, a bus pass but no car. I live in Seattle, I am a nice person, athletic build, I enjoy sunshine and dogs. And dislike Seattle living. I really have so much time off and I don't have much planned, so e-mail me if anyone on here wants to climb, anything. I'll be honest if I am up for it or not. Obviously I'd rather climb with people I know, but I don't really care too much. Thanks, Bye -Kat

That's exactly the one I was thinking of! I am glad you went there. He makes some incredible wine huh?! He has some sort of ancient sage secret of wine making. I have drank his wine and heard so much about his place, I cannot wait to go, maybe I will this weekend!

Muffy, I was in a boot cast for a couple months last year from screwing up my foot. I have arch issues now and loss of flexibility. Lots of scar tissue. No problem because I am working on it. I suggest to Get a good Physical Therapist and get on a regimine. You aren't born knowing how to move properly and know every little thing about your body, they've gone to school for many years to tell you what to do, and show you. Doctors can only tell you what's wrong with you, which can be very disappointing. PT's can show you that you can retrain your body, just don't give up on it. Believe me, pain takes a long time to get over, but it does and can get better with proper treatment. On the scheme of my experiencing body pain now, the foot is only mildly irritating at times.

Wedge Mountain is really good, in Peshastin. You have to try their raspberry wine. For more of a sit-down tutorial there is (I forget the name) winery in Peshastin, it is a cool Log house, right down the road from Wedge Mnt. And you should definitly get a reservation at Icicle Creek winery. Happy Anniversary.

For those who've seen me in action, I really like groovin to Neil Diamond and Barbra Striesand. Tanstfl, you are singing that next time we go out.

I remember the last pitch sucking if you had shoes on yer harness or not. Mike, he has 3 legs, that's why he climbs so well.

rw, I am a ROBOT. I do not feel, love, care or bath. All I do is KILL!

Rad!!

I suggest more climbing.

Dip Set! Killah!

Hey what up Kevino! Save a spot in the car for me! Call me. It isn't so bad, I was there for a while in Sept. last year. You live in Ellensburg, you can deal with the heat. The ranger station also makes color photo copies for you of castle rock, a cool area just down the road. I am no help for a guidebook though, used it for toilet paper. NYC007, sawtooths is a little too much hassle for a weekend.

Can't you guys just get a new cat? They all look the same anyway.

Do you have pictures without skis?

Sounds like a plan Tone. See ya there.

I don't know really. Probably for being my friend.

Awesome Trip! & Funny!! I'd love to go up with you to see the Larchies turn!

My name is Kat. That is not my full name. It is Kathleen. For a good time, call five oh nine, eight 8 three, eight eight zero 4 It is beautiful outside! It would be nice at Index!