ClimbingPanther

You'll never get ME to bike to work on Friday. Heh heh heh, 'cause I'm not working on Friday, suckaz!

Pardon my ignorance, I never paid him or any other televangelist much attention, but did he really hate people? I don't doubt he may have been off his rocker and said a lot of foolish things, but "hate" is such a buzz-word that's way overused these days when it's not always very accurate. I just get peeved at the equating of hatred to the belief a given action is morally wrong.

The duct tape tostitos picture was truly mind-blowing. Looks like we have an "11th essential!"

Every time a preventable incident makes the news, it unnecessarily propogates false perceptions about the danger of climbing or the risk-crazed thrill seekers who do it. It makes the whole climbing community look careless and selfish. This is why some nerves are clearly touched on this board.

People getting in to trouble is a statistical inevitability on that mountain. I don't advocate for too much regulation though. I wouldn't mind seeing a free permit system put in place that limits the number of climbers on each day to a reasonably safe number. I find it odd that the most popular mountain in the US has no crowd control whatsoever. It seems that the sheer concentration of people can often be a problem in and of itself. Can you imagine the Rainier DC without a limit?

Hate the policy, not the policymaker

Speaking of GU recipies, the brew store is not the best place to get maltodextrin, assuming you plan on using lots of it. Get it at Honeyville Grain online. About $1 per pound, including shipping. w00t! http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=485 You can get Fructose for a dollar a pound too at www.azurestandard.com but it's not worth the trouble buying online unless you're going for the 50 lb bag.

Have you considered sleeping in warm clothes (down jacket, etc.) on a sleeping pad with no bag at all? I have done this a couple of times in sub-freezing temperatures.

weak. use pirahna.

ugh, then everybody else should just stay away 'cause I'm going to be there too.

I am surprised to hear people make such statements. So there is a bit of third class downclimbing. That's why we call it CLIMBING. It's all part of the challenge. Are you saying that a statement you don't agree with coming from Kevbone is a surprise?

Are you smart? Do you fear large herds of cattle? You may think these odd questions, but let me 'xplain. The solution to your problem is to realize that you are smarter and better than anyone in the crowd of people, unless I am there. Just see them for what they are, cattle feeding on and contributing to the vast world economy, and do not fear them. Be grateful that the land of plenty which they perpetuate is what allows you to screw off with your life and do fun stuff. Shoot, I should be a psychiatrist.

Thanks, Layton. I got some more info from her today. It happened during a fall. It is quite sore to the touch on the palm side of the second knuckle of her ring finger. Swelling is worse but bruising is gone. However, when I told her how to check for the bowstring effect of a complete pulley rupture, she said it didn't appear the tendon was pulling away from the knuckle when flexed. This makes me think it's a partial pulley tear and should be OK with a splint and a few weeks/months of rest. I will do my best to convince her to see someone about it though. Any suggestions for the Bothell/Woodinville area for a doc or similar professional who is knowledgeable in hand injuries like this? Thanks!

My girlfriend was climbing at Stone today and suddenly realized something was wrong with her finger. There was no pop anything like that she remembers. It's bruised and swollen, and the finger tip went numb several hours after the injury. It is not aching constantly, but it hurts to touch. Full range of motion is still available without significant pain, though I don't know how much she can exert without feeling pain. The question is: is this a familiar injury to anyone and should she go see someone about it, or just do the ice-2-days, warm-after-that treatment. She's a piano player and needs her finger to recover correctly.

Have you considered reconstructive surgery on your feet? La Sportiva's always fit my perfectly proportioned feet.

Has anybody been to see that new Warner Brothers flick, "Constipation?" Oh wait, it hasn't come out yet.

I haven't been around long enough to know if my strategy actually works, but it makes sense in my head. I have an old beater car and I don't leave anything in it at all. Don't make yourself a good target and you'll be less likely to get hit. It's no guarantee, but it's all about the odds.

Sorry if this has already been said, but the more recent situation with the 3 lost people who HAD GPS AND DIDN'T USE IT kinda illustrates exactly why MLU's are stupid. Any idiot can now go to the mountains without any preparation and someone will come hold their hand to get them out of trouble. This should be more of a reason for lawmakers NOT to pass this stupid law, instead of the other way around. Good grief. If anything, rescue costs will go up because more people will use MLU's as a safety net for their own stupidity.

if climbing Hood w/o an MLU is outlawed, only outlaws will climb Hood w/o an MLU I'm so hot.

Climbing Hood Old Chute from near summit, looking towards Timberline, Dec 31, 2006. __________________________________________________________ Scenic From HWY 20, east of WA Pass, looking south. Jan '07

I didn't see "foraker" mentioned anywhere...???

So, what member (or two, preferably) would like to usher me and my ladyfriend in the door for a free day of climbing??? There could be beer involved. 6-pack, your choice?

I'm making my first foray into a gym ever next weekend in Seattle. Is there a better option than Stone?

Assuming his recent National Geographic article, and my memory for that matter, are accurate, Messner stopped rock climbing after getting frostbite in his toes while searching for his brother on some uber-high mountain. Hi-altitude stuff was just the only thing he could be the best in the world at after losing foot function.

No, I'm not from Seattle and have never been there before until this weekend. I want a 30% off coupon! No fair. Where do I sign up? So I was going up there to visit my new ladyfriend, and had planned on spending some hours boot shopping all over Seattle before I saw her. However, that didn't sound like much fun so I said forget it, but we just stopped by there since we were in the neighborhood and all my wildest dreams came true. So, Arch, I'm kinda sad you're not a sinner anymore. Tell me how you reached perfection AND began sporting a pentagram?!