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where is Grenoble? Sometime within the next 6 months, I will be in Toulouse and will be looking to climb,

Because you could get 2 days private guiding and a couple nights at Camp 4 for the same price? from whom? Same Yose Mountaineering School, or just some bum you round up and offer money to in Camp 4?

Once upon a time Not so long ago Tommy used to work on the docks Union's been on strike He's down on his luck...it's tough, so tough Gina works the diner all day Working for her man, she brings home her pay For love - for love She says we've got to hold on to what we've got 'Cause it doesn't make a difference If we make it or not We've got each other and that's a lot For love - we'll give it a shot Whooah, we're half way there Livin' on a prayer Take my hand and we'll make it - I swear Livin' on a prayer Tommy's got his six string in hock Now he's holding in what he used To make it talk - so tough, it's tough Gina dreams of running away When she cries in the night Tommy whispers baby it's okay, someday We've got to hold on to what we've got 'Cause it doesn't make a difference If we make it or not We've got each other and that's a lot For love - we'll give it a shot Whooah, we're half way there Livin' on a prayer Take my hand and we'll make it - I swear Livin' on a prayer We've got to hold on ready or not You live for the fight when it's all that you've got Whooah, we're half way there Livin' on a prayer Take my hand and we'll make it - I swear Livin' on a prayer

do you work where I work? I have that exact same problem. frustrates the hell out of me. decent toilet paper dispensers is a cheap way to improve employee moral. but a horrible place to cut costs.

whatever happened to separation of church and state. sure let him pray, but don't tell me to pray. next thing you know, bush will institute singing coombayah every morning at 8 because it will help the US

worst case scenarios never happen. they set the expectations, then everything else seems better.

sounds like a personal problem to me.

just think, if we were kayakers, we would be arguing about if we should remove the fallen trees from the middle of rivers. How much cleaning is acceptable? This will always be a debate.

my she was a bitchy waitress.

on many an occasion i have been climbing in squamish, while it is wet in seattle. usually ends up being pretty good climbing weather.

I've heard that's a good one.

maybe, what'cha gonna do?

who are you planning on stalking?

glad you made it back ok!

good morning to you as well

Many folks did not choose to not leave, they did not have a means to leave, or no where to go. There are many reasons why people are still there. Yes, some folks who could have left, should have. But there are many people who just couldn't. And if they walked 8 miles, where would they go? Plus if they are 80, or if they have 3 kids. Life is great and simple when you are in an armchair watching.

some of the climbs in Zion do have a paved trail. Weirdest topout you can imagine. Prodigal Sun, Moonlight buttress and others topout right next to a 4 foot wide paved trail swarming with tourists. You are enjoying the climb,then all of a sudden you are surrounded by folks taking your picture, asking if you climbed the face, and other annoying habits.

I agree that you did what was right. You gave them what advice you could and tried to help them out. They listened a bit, and just went ahead doing what they were doing. There are many folks out there that will prove the theory of natural selection.

break the law and screw over the rest of us as our insurance premiums rise to cover your lying ass.

CALL PETA, them kids is torturing them little piggies.

how are the deals on climbing gear?

it is time to buy land and mineral rights in Colorado?

once again, everything is GWB's fault? i don't support the sucker, but i am always curious how anytime anything bad happens, it is always his fault. There is always a path that leads to him. However, if something good happens, it never gets linked back to him (for instance, the unemployment rate is now back down to 4.9%). seems a bit fishy to me...