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You thought it sucked because there weren't enough explosions or car chases.

This explains why people tell you you have to have a guide on the Matterhorn. There aren't any laws apparently, just "hoodlum guides", trying to protect their monopoly.

Has anyone seen Fume ( Dreams ). The dream of "The Blizzard" was pretty cool. The climbers were really old school.

Tell us more about Dr. Shigo. Got some links? Short Biography

Okay, I read the article and wondered about this statement. What are they talking about here? Carbon-fiber composites? Those would be difficult to dispose of. Right now, cars are mostly steel. They rip off the plastic panels and bumper components and then crush the whole thing down. It then gets shredded and goes off to China where it is melted down and recycled. If you start mixing metals like iron and aluminum, you'd have to separate the two before you could recycle. I would imagine that you could design the car so that ferrous components could be easily separated. Perhaps easier said than done.

They are starting to build hybrid SUVs. It would seem to me that if you put the extra money that the batteries and electric motor would cost into an aluminum chassis instead, you'd have a car that got better gas mileage, but wouldn't ever need a battery replacement.

That's easy. Newer cars are heavier with bigger engines. People like to be able to accelerate rapidly up to the next stop light.

That may be what you recall but you're wrong. There are more than two protection bolts on Aint Misbehavin and there are none on Groundhog Day. If memory serves me, Ain't Misbehaving also has a third bolt near the top of this alternate first pitch to Groundhog Day. The top part is pretty easy slab without any natural pro. So how old a route is Ain't misbehaving? I assume it's newer than Groundhog Day.

Sounds like an all-in-all super trip.

That goes way beyond rude. But it makes for a funny story.

I believe you meant moot. Why does it have to be cryptobiotic? It's grass. Grass does a good job of stabilizing soils. I can climb that without the bolts and have walked off. So what? You saying you have to be a 5.9 climber to climb this little crag? The walk off takes longer than rappelling. My objection to what was going on in this thread was that it was apparent that many of those commenting on the route had either never climbed it, or else had not climbed it in many years. They were commenting on bolts they hadn't seen. Just knowing there was one bolt was all they needed to know. Go chop those bolts. See if I care.

What is a Tango? A self-locking carabiner?

<<<<SHUDDERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>>>>

Man, I wish I could say I were upwardly mobile.

Yuppies? Tell me about it. I work in Bellevue. To be a YUPPY, it is not sufficient to be young and urban. You must also be upwardly mobile, or be trying damn hard to project that image.

Let's not overreach. I'd settle even for one.

Those are the fossilized tentacles of a giant squid! OMG!

I've had similar problems over the past two days. It's pretty bad when cc.com loads more slowly than rc.com.

Quality thread-resurrection, all the way.

If I were him, I wouldn't have time for cc.com either.

Did you climb at Winterwalk Wall or whatever they call that side of the coulee?

This is a double post. You WANT people to spray on it don't you?

Here's an article on a related topic about maintenance of existing roads. Mattp is quoted in it. As Forest Roads Crumble, Access to Woods Slips Away

I found one at Chainsaw wall last week too.

Dave, I'm losing my mind. I can feel it...