Alpinfox

jeeezus... You haven't been tested on your "how to not treat everything like a mountainears class" skills either, but we let you post here.

It looks like you are parked in some SLUSHKIN there. "Slushkin will guide us!"

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All this advice and the poor girl still hasn't gotten any offers to actually TAKE HER OUT CLIMBING (except by DaveSchuldt) which, I'm guessing, was her hope since this post is in the Climbing Partners forum. Hey Brianna, what is your schedule? Maybe next week sometime we could head out somewhere?

Snoboy, you must have swastikas on your underoos, because vis-a-vis your last comment, that sounds like something ADOLF HITLER might say within the parameters of the paradigm of the arguement, so to speak.

Actually, I find all this "overcoming adversity" stuff pretty inspirational. Did ya'll hear about the former siamese twins in the Olympics!?!?!? Pretty amazing. See the attachment for a pic of them in action. Inspirational.

Hey Oly or BCD, I will give ya a few bux or a fer yer ripped copy. Please pm.

How to win an arguement Simply follow these rules: * Drink Liquor. (JD) Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large shots of Jack Daniels, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture. People will be impressed. Some may leave the room. * Make things up. Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level." NOTE: Always make up exact figures. If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up, too. Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left your soiled underwear in my bath house." * Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases. Memorize this list: Let me put it this way In terms of Vis-a-vis Per se As it were Qua So to speak well, any-who You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.," "e.g.," and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do not." Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say: "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money." You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say: "Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D." Only a fool would challenge that statement. * Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks. You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are: You're begging the question. You're being defensive. Don't compare apples and oranges. What are your parameters? This last one is especially valuable. Nobody, other than mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means. Here's how to use your comebacks: You say As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873... Your opponents says Lincoln died in 1865. You say You're begging the question. OR You say Liberians, like most Asians... Your opponents says Liberia is in Africa. You say You're being defensive. * Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler. This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say: "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler." You now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.

I agree. I don't think fresh snow in the couloir would be helpful, but pms knows a lot more about that sort of thing than I do. If it was wet snow and then froze... THEN you would have something. You spelled "Mountaineering" incorrectly in your signature line.

Hello, I am selling a brand new "fast/light" style alpine pack. Please see my listing here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44045&item=5917106960&rd=1 I thought it might appeal to at least ONE sprayer here...

Waterfall ice can be > 90 degrees.

"Oh yeah? Well FUCK you! " "Oh no! fuck YOU"

There is multipitch sport in Leavenworth, Darrington, Static Point, Smith Rock, and I'm sure many other places in the PNW. I agree with Justin that learning how to clean an anchor and rappel down is something you should learn soon if you don't already know how to do that. If you aren't leading, it doesn't really matter whether it is a sport or trad climb except that sport climbs will generally require face climbing skills and trad climbs will generally require some crack climbing skills. You should try to make it to the rope-ups at Smith and Leavenworth. Good place to meet partners and there might even be some special clinics for beginning climbers.

They aren't made by Stubai, they are made by Burton "Red" and they really are called "Trampons" for some weird reason. However, they are identical to the stubais and my pair work great. Any extender bar would probably work. Doesn't have to be Stubai brand. Thanks for the last weekend at Gustav's! You

I've never been up mailbox peak, but can't go today. Do you have tomorrow off too? <-- I don't know why I put these here.

Hey, I'm going to be at Stoney G's this aftuhnoon if any uh yous guys or gals wants to hook up for some climby climby. If you don't know who I am, I'm the king of hearts : http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/upload/382203-pcid.jpg Thank you for allow grammarian wizard tuh post.

I just had a toasted bagel with cream cheese and fresh sliced tomato from my garden. MMMMMMMMMM!!!!! "There are only two things that money can't buy, and that's true love and home grown tomatoes".

Sniff Sniff.... Do I smell a Mountainears outing? How about taking one or two newbies out rather than the whole gang.

This picture is awesome: Nice work Special. In the overview picture of the mountain (your first picture), the NE ridge is the right skyline, yes?

It's a tradition for Hamm's to get medals that they don't deserve.

The photo caption on page 195 of Nelson/Potterfeld's "Selected Climbs in the Cascades Vol.II" should read: "Alpinfox is an alpine hero; quite possibly the coolest thing since folded gnesis".

When George Boole (of "Boolean" logic fame) had a child, a colleague asked him, "So, is it a boy or a girl". Boole replied, "YES!"

Hi everybody, Long time lurker, first time poster. I'm just getting into trad climbing... what kind of rack should I get? Thanks! p.s. One more thing. Do ya'll think "Godzilla" at Index is 5.9 or 10a?

We checked em out a bit. The one that slants up and left looked like a good potential hand crack, but it doesn't look like it has been climbed in many many many years, if at all. Lots of dirt and moss and a few small trees. Tell me what you know about em.