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11worth has a less "urban" vibe than Smith. Camping in the trees, more options to get away from crowds but still climb quality rock Smith is redneck dirtpatch camping and busy crags in a compact park. 11worth has more options if you are setting your own TRs but not leading. Most routes at smith require someone to gun the rop to the anchors before you can TR. Smith has more easy sport routes (these are usually crowded). 11worth has easy gear routes. 11worth is jinxed for me - rain, injuries, food poisoning - I have not had a drama free trip there since 1997.

I am a first class mASSter

first class

there should be a ledge bolt off to the left of the station - so you can possibly sling a backyard hammock between it and the tree. 3'x6' sheet of plywood rigged w/ slings might be less collapse prone than lawn chairs. The route overhangs so you could just flag it for hauling. Personally I would then just chuck it down into the forest in the morning - though I am sure some people would be scandalized by that idea

the tree is really only big enough for 1 person. If you are not fixated on the idea of sleeping on the wall, it's only about 120m from the tree to the ledge, so you can easily fix, rap and sleep on the ground, and then jug back up

In the past few days a small number of people have asked various moderators strikingly similar questions related to safety liability issues and drinking at the Rope-Up events. In all the dozen or so major events organized by various users of this website (Fall and Winter rope-ups, smith fest, sausages-and-slides etc.) these issues have never come up before. Neither as concerns voiced prior to the event, nor as 'lessons-learned' after the fact. So it is puzzling why they should become the issue-du-jour now. To clarify: cascadeclimbers.com is a bulletin board on a website where individuals may organize activities. It is neither a guide service nor a bar. It is a space on the internet where people with a common interest in climbing in the PNW can communicate with each other. I would feel pretty fucking awful if someone got hurt climbing, or someone went a bit too wild and got hurt `partying'. I will keep an eye out that my friends are in control - and I hope that they keep an eye out for me. If you need things spelled out more clearly than that, maybe you should re-assess whether or not you are comfortable attending any event that is being organized on a voluntary basis by other people who post to this website. You are 100% welcome to NOT attend. If you do wish to attend then that's awesome, it will be a fun time to meet, climb and hang-out.

I saw them play a basement party in the U-district before they got so popular. The 2nd album was the best. Now they kinda suck

the workouts at www.crossfit.com use Tabata intervals a fair bit.

thanks for clarifying. I realize now that I misread what you were saying several times.

I don't understand. Do you think things are getting better or worse? Or is it that one type of danger has diminished but a new type is developing?

what's an experienced sport climber? There's not much objective hazard to sport climbing - that's the whole point of why it IS sport climbing. Ice climbing is ALL about objective (and subjective) hazard. If you are not snart you can easily be krushed. cold winter same as anything else - read as much as you can on it, find someone to show you. I hired a guide for a day with some friends. here is a good link: http://www.tradgirl.com/climbing_faq/ice_climbing.htm

choss

I'd say for the majority of people who've actually posted to this thread the "ease" of climbs at Index is just fine. now some are trying to weak-arm pub club ... that's new

from cbc.ca: I have fond memories of climbing with Jeff. I'll miss him.

guidebook was left at the base by my friend Conor Reynolds. I don't know if it had contact info within, but I can get it back to him if not. PM.

tho I do not know if it gives a good analog to Weart, the NW Face of Castle Towers looked to still have continuous ice/neve and a passable 'schrund, but maybe as much as 2 pitches of rock at the top that was dropping bombs here and there.

most parties don't take bikes though do they?

here I thought you'd put in a picture of Bushwick Bill or Joe C.

Heinrich this thread is about mt sloan in Canada. there may be a mt. sloan in washington that may or may not be near flooding

so does that make the one on the right with it's head in the clouds, above the ice fall Mt. SATAN?!!!

if you are going to drop a few hundred $$ it is worth looking into getting your G.S.T. refunded. I am sure a google search will turn up info. You have to keep you receipts and each individual receipt has to be greater than $50 or something like that. MEC seems to go through cycles of running out of climbing hardware and long waits to restock.

Another 1000 Ropeup Words: It is a weekend in the fall when a big bunch of people who post on this stupid website gather in Leavenworth to talk shit in person and drink beer and even maybe go climbing. There have been 3 of these events so far - each with a different flavah - a search through the archives will probably reveal some fun spray "Traditionally" there has been a keg or two (or three?) provided. There have been pancake breakfasts and bratwursts and other things. Big campfire. Last year there was giveaways and a bunch of slide shows and a very long boring raffle - and also presentations by park rangers or something, I missed that part 'cause it happened WAY early like 10:30am or something and I was asleep yo. Previous years were not as bling but plab times too. This years happenings are yet to be determined but it's not like anyone's handing out chores. What happens happens - casuallike.

mmm ... the smell of cat pee

I think we all get the point. gotnoname please send me a PM if you want this thread unlocked so you can respond or add anything.

are these "seconds" from the sale? i.e. not covered by warranty? I think your prices may be somewhat high.