Toast Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 No doubt, fleb... toe funk seems to stick to polypro. I've just discovered a great trick, though. White vinegar will take the stank out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COL._Von_Spanker Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 In response to Poster: Greg_W Subject: Re: How do you Sock Up?? Â So, I would think that if your liner did ITS job and pulled the moisture out to the outside of the sock, the Smartwool (or other) would do ITS job and wick said moisture to the outside of it. Â Thats exactly what happens, but once wicked to wool, there's not really anywhere for it to go when in a boot, and wool may wick, but it doesn't really dry that fast while in a sweaty non-breathing boot. When wet, wool sort of works like a wetsuit, in that the water/sweat in it warms up. Â I like the liners cause they are light and you can bring extra without adding that much weight, so even if yer woolies are crusty you can throw on a new pair of liners and feel all fresh and clean. Â BTW, what's with boots claiming that they are "breathable", unless there's mesh it aint breathable, and if there is mesh it aint waterproof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I use these Dru,   and I like to turn them inside out for my own pleasure  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 At least he's honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I'm sure you'd be happy to sell me several pairs, too. Wouldn't you? Â i hate salespeople who push products just because they want to sell them, and i don't work on commission. i'd be happy to sell you smartwool socks because i think they're the shit. (and i thought that long before i ever started working where i do.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 I know, just flipping you some shit is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Mountain Sports Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 SmartWool makes a Liner sock, but liner socks are really not necessary. One of the most important considerations in taking care of your feet is keeping them dry, and for long days or wet conditions, the best thing you can do for your feet is to have a second pair to switch into when the first pair is soaked. SmartWool makes socks in different styles and thicknesses, so you should be able to find the "right" one for any of your endeavors. And SmartWool backs their socks - "guaranteed not to itch or shrink and to outperform all other socks or your money back." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 just flipping you some shit is all  aw, thanks, greggie. back atcha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 "Greggie"??? Does this mean we're going steady now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 "So, I would think that if your liner did ITS job and pulled the moisture out to the outside of the sock, the Smartwool (or other) would do ITS job and wick said moisture to the outside of it. " Â This is true. - I've found that boots (unlike running/approach shoes) don't breath very well - so the liner saturates, then the socks, then my feet. Hey, it's what works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 "Greggie"??? Does this mean we're going steady now? G-money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 cj - I was thinking that my scenario would keep your foot dry. You are saying that this is not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin_Ristau Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Thorlos and Smartwool = expensive  Wigwam 40 Below wool socks = comfortable, effective, cheap - $8.00CDN @ MEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Greg - Doesn't work for me, but I have a)Feet that sweat like stink b)Boots that aren't that breathable (a pair of the Vasque LaSportiva K2/K3 clones Worth trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 i find that smartwool's get really matted...especailly after spending a coupla days in em...even in the washing machine they really dont ever regain their cushyness...they also seem to get progresively sweatier the old thye are...like mabe they stop breathing? i dont know...for all the $$$ they are kindadissapointing.. i have taken to buying whatever socks are on sale as the price is ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 (edited) Do you turn them inside out in the washer?? It helps. (RTFM) Â Hot tip: don't lend your favourite ski socks out to someone who is going to break their tib/fib, it will get cut off by the EMT's!! Â Smartwool aint the only socks in my drawer. I got some of those ones trask reccomends, but find those kinda sweaty. There's some other ones too, $7 at MEC, tough as nails, not too cushy. I try to wear them out by wearing them to work, but they won't die. SW always is the one I want to wear though. Edited December 23, 2002 by snoboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbconlin Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I agree with snoboy and disagree [i guess] with redmonk. Smartwool will regain cushiness in the wash, but I do turn them inside out, which probably helps. Â I think Smartwools are designed to work w/o liners, but that is just a guess based on their interior knit. I also find them vastly superior to wool for all day hiking comfort and wicking ability. Â Some key factors I think that have been identified in this thread are such: First of all, how sweaty are your feet, Greg? My feet aren't very sweaty so what works for me, may or may not work for you. Second, where are you having blister issues? I generally don't get them, except occasionally on my heel if its a new/stiff boot, or it just plain doesn't fit right. Probably the single most important issue with blisters is boot fit!!! This is best dealt with a priori, but can be customized post hoc by adjusting the thickness of your sock system. Sometimes, after boots break in, and get a little looser, I start wearing more or thicker socks to make up for the extra room. Finally, if the blisters are appearing only on your heel, just throw a piece of tape over your heel when you boot up for the day and call it good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamaker Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 W/ my current generation of tighter fitting but warmer boots, I've been using one layer of synthetic/wool blends. For winter overnights I carry one extra pair for sleeping and for the last day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_K Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I've got narrow heels and have had sporadic blister problems over the years no matter what combination of socks I've used. On a friends advice this year I tried runners socks as a liner. These are two layer synthetic socks. I wear a heavy weight Thorlo sock over them - no blisters this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 Good idea Paul K. I have some of those; might try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Speaking of socks, does anyone know where I can get a winter sock for Mr. Happy? Him and the two boys get cold out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_K Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 These should fit. Trask Size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I've got narrow heels and have had sporadic blister problems over the years no matter what combination of socks  Have you tried taping your heels? Duct tape works good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 I tried that duct tape deal and it didn't do shit for me, but that's just me. It might work for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 it works for me...that and very thin socks and boots a bit on the big side. Occasionally throw in some nylon knee highs as liners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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