tvashtarkatena Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 I just spent some o the morning calling all the Democrats county and legislative district chairs to get I-502 endorsements. No comment, save UGH. Quote
billcoe Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 this directly equates to more drunk people, no way to get around that. not that there is anything wrong with that. other than dui's, abuse, etc if you care about that shit. but more money for the government to squander or build out the police state! but the other states with a similar setup are still operational....we'll be ok....albeit a little more sauced. pour me another drink I admit I haven't looked at the numbers, but some of this must be via cost savings and not increased sales don't ya think? 900 state employees pay is not insignificant....should be able to get an extra 900 teachers hired out of that 80 million extra in the pocket, or pay off some bills. Quote
olyclimber Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 http://yeson1183.com/facts/I-1183_WRC_080911.pdf?_c=104l5atzspqhczz&sr_t=p you could be right...i don't have time to read it. "independent" study commissioned by Costco. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Looks like it'll be leg of lamb and whiskey for Thanksgiving this year. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Looks like it'll be leg of lamb and whiskey for Thanksgiving this year. More like a fresh Turkey, a nice poinsettia, and beaujolais nouveau. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 I'm actually thinking racoon to save a little $$$. Got a family of em living up the street, and I don't think the hosts will miss 'em. Quote
billcoe Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 I'm actually thinking racoon to save a little $$$. Got a family of em living up the street, and I don't think the hosts will miss 'em. Git yerself a fat one bubba! Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 The gulls around here are almost as large as turkeys.... Quote
Stefan Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 Yup. I hope you voted NO. I think our liquor laws are stupid and the State should not be in the distribution business, but I don't think that restricting the sale of liquor to Costco and 10,000 square foot Safeway stores is the right idea. Give the law time. In the future the law will change to allow smaller stores. Don't expect home runs. A lot of base hits is a good strategy. The new law ALREADY allows for smaller stores. Please review the thread, or the legislation. Either one, it'll tell you the same thing. Huh? I did read the initiative and the thread. What I am talking about is this 10,000 foot rule will probably be eliminated in the future. I understand where there are NO 10,000 foot stores, then there are exceptions…but this 10,000 foot rule will probably be eliminated in some time to allow for more competition. Quote
prole Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 Competition for liquor delivery systems. We'll be free in no time. Quote
ivan Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 shouldn't the pirates forum be revived and this thread put in it? Quote
sobo Posted November 10, 2011 Author Posted November 10, 2011 Yup. I hope you voted NO. I think our liquor laws are stupid and the State should not be in the distribution business, but I don't think that restricting the sale of liquor to Costco and 10,000 square foot Safeway stores is the right idea. Give the law time. In the future the law will change to allow smaller stores. Don't expect home runs. A lot of base hits is a good strategy. The new law ALREADY allows for smaller stores. Please review the thread, or the legislation. Either one, it'll tell you the same thing. Huh? I did read the initiative and the thread. What I am talking about is this 10,000 foot rule will probably be eliminated in the future. I understand where there are NO 10,000 foot stores, then there are exceptions…but this 10,000 foot rule will probably be eliminated in some time to allow for more competition. Sorry, Stefan, I guess I misread the part in your post where you said "...the law will change to allow smaller stores...". Since the law already does allow them, I could not process your comment in any other way other than to assume that you thought the law did not allow for smaller stores. My apologies for not understanding what you wrote. Quote
rob Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 I think it's crazy that some people are saying, "oh, this doesn't cover small stores, so we should just keep everything in monopolized, state-run communist-bloc style gray buildings." Quote
sobo Posted November 10, 2011 Author Posted November 10, 2011 ...where EVERYDAY YOU CAN BE TRAINING TO BE STRONGEST RUSSIAN CLIMBER. Quote
j_b Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 Yet, state owned liquor stores are as American as apple pie. GOPers were opposed to more liquor stores and telling us to think of the children not so long ago, so it's kind of ironic. Especially that we are one of the very few non-Islamic state with a 21 yo legal drinking age. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age Quote
sobo Posted November 10, 2011 Author Posted November 10, 2011 Yet, state owned liquor stores are as American as apple pie. GOPers were opposed to more liquor stores and telling us to think of the children not so long ago, so it's kind of ironic. Especially that we are one of the very few non-Islamic state with a 21 yo legal drinking age.What irony, and how did this initiative become an issue of partisan politics?? Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Yet, state owned liquor stores are as American as apple pie. Bullshit. They are a prohbition-era (look how that worked out) throwback. And quit trying to pull out the partisan card at every opportunity. State you're for or against something, state why, and listen to what others say for once rather than try to associate them with party, or specific political figures. Quote
j_b Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) Yet, state owned liquor stores are as American as apple pie. GOPers were opposed to more liquor stores and telling us to think of the children not so long ago, so it's kind of ironic. Especially that we are one of the very few non-Islamic state with a 21 yo legal drinking age. What irony, and how did this initiative become an issue of partisan politics?? Not that I paid a great deal of attention but the GOP tended to support the initiative in the name of the "free" market, while Dems tended to oppose it for a number of reasons ranging from jobs to saving the children. It obviously wasn't a fast rule since for example I am as liberal as they come and I always thought it was stupid to not have regular stores sell alcohol. The irony resides in those people who usually and historically don't want alcohol or soft drugs to be freely available arguing that availability plays no role in use frequency. Edited November 11, 2011 by j_b Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 I'm pissed off that my dispensary can't sell alcohol. Now THAT'S some serious irony. Quote
sobo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Posted November 11, 2011 Not that I paid a great deal of attention but the GOP tended to support the initiative in the name of the "free" market, while Dems tended to oppose it for a number of reasons ranging from jobs to saving the children.Meh. I never saw that in my research nor experienced it in my discussions of the proposal with others. Guess I just missed that... The irony resides in those people who usually and historically don't want alcohol or soft drugs to be freely available arguing that availability plays no role in use frequency. I guess the irony was lost on me, since I don't fall into that camp. Quote
j_b Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Well, McKenna was for it and Inslee was against it. A small sample but a significant one since one of the 2 will be our next governor. Quote
rob Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) democrat and republican don't even mean anything. There are plenty of conservative democrats (Mississippi, anyone??) and plenty of liberal republicans. They're just parties. Ideologies shift. Remember when the southern democrats resisted civil rights legislation in the 60's? LOL. Edited November 11, 2011 by rob Quote
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