Doug Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Maybe they're hoping for some kind of tax increase. Write, call or shop up on your legislator's doorstep HB 2619 Quote
LostCamKenny Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 it wouldn't be a bad idea to do the same in OR, too... Quote
JosephH Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (1) A person who engages in mountain climbing during the months of November, December, January, February, and March shall use an electronic signaling device when climbing a mountain at a point above the timberline. Quote
LostCamKenny Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 there's got to be more to your post JH... what gives? Quote
Water Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 so.. i see no mention of penalties or enforcement in this. Is that decided at a later date? electronic signaling device = mirror that takes batteries Quote
dberdinka Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 ...or what? So glad those asshats have my back! Are there any statistics available on the number of searches for lost climbers vs skiers, snowmobilers, hunters and small children in the state of Washington? Quote
ivan Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 electronic signaling device = mirror that takes batteries or my stereo turned up nice n' loud? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 With a budget deficit of 10 billion, this is what this legislator is most concerned with... Quote
onix Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 PLB's for all!... until they start going off accidentally or because "the water tasted salty." Quote
Doug Posted January 14, 2010 Author Posted January 14, 2010 hey, for the record, if mine go's off I was hiking, not; I repeat NOT mountain climbing! I was taking a walk. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'd love to see this Eistein's plan for enforcement. Quote
Dan_Miller Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 House Bill 2619 Sponsors Here they are folks. Doubtless, they're 'way' more knowledgeable about mountaineering and PLBs, ELTs and EPIRBs than anyone else! Here's their contact information. Let's have our voices heard gang, especially the professional guides among us (read real government intrusion here). Link to their emails: Rep. Sherry Appleton (D) 23rd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 424 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7934 E-mail Rep. Jim Jacks (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 322 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7924 E-mail Rep. Roger Goodman (D) 45th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 320 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7878 District Office: (425) 739-1810 E-mail Rep. Marko Liias (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 434 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7972 District Office: (425) 776-7959 E-mail Rep. John McCoy (D) 38th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7864 District Office: (425) 257-1769 E-mail Rep. Jim Moeller Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 436A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7872 E-mail Rep. Mary Helen Roberts (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 315 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7950 District Office: (425) 744-3130 E-mail Rep. Geoff Simpson (D) 47th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 426 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7918 E-mail Rep. Brendan Williams Majority External Relations Leader (D) 22nd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132F Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7940 E-mail Quote
Ryan Canfield Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 only if they give them away to us for free! Quote
Pilchuck71 Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Here is a clickable link to the contact information: Representatives by name Speak up people! Or don't whine when it goes through! Edited January 14, 2010 by Pilchuck71 Quote
Julian Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Does a headlamp count as an electronic signaling device? It runs on batteries and emits a "signal" (hell, you can send morse code with it if you want). Quote
Mtguide Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I'm sure the manufacturers are licking their lips over this, and will be doing everything they can to push it through. Quote
dberdinka Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 While Mount Hood has had it's high profile (always high profile ) rescues in the last couple years I personally can't think of any rescue operations for climbers that have occured in the Cascades of Washington during the winter months. Can anyone else? Actually not entirely true. Alex and co's recent rescue in Tumwater Canyon but that was well below treeline! In contrast a snowmobiler got rescued off Mt Baker just last week. Quote
ScaredSilly Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 An LED flashlight is an electronic signaling device. Quote
Doug Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 ok, not to say anyone here (including me) is lazy, but a couple of folks on NWHikers did some background checking and it seems this HB is sponsored by Rep. Marko Liias of Snohomish Co. (find him and more info on this on Facebook). It apparently introduced by a constituent and possible political ally Kevin Stoltz, the Mukilteo City Council VP who happens to own a startup company that (gasp)provides satellite based emergency locator beacons to individuals engaged in activities in the wilderness. He sells and rents them. You know, there were probably no laws broken here but this sure smells fishy. Quote
pdk Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Doug, Nice work. I quoted you in an email to Marko calling him out on this.... marko@markoliias.com Anyone know someone in the news that could run a story on this? That'd be awesome. Quote
ZimZam Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Out that capitalist sum'bitch. Better yet take him to a public square and put him in the ring with the Enumclaw horse fucker. Quote
Fairweather Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 House Bill 2619 Sponsors Here they are folks. Doubtless, they're 'way' more knowledgeable about mountaineering and PLBs, ELTs and EPIRBs than anyone else! Here's their contact information. Let's have our voices heard gang, especially the professional guides among us (read real government intrusion here). Link to their emails: Rep. Sherry Appleton (D) 23rd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 424 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7934 E-mail Rep. Jim Jacks (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 322 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7924 E-mail Rep. Roger Goodman (D) 45th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 320 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7878 District Office: (425) 739-1810 E-mail Rep. Marko Liias (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 434 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7972 District Office: (425) 776-7959 E-mail Rep. John McCoy (D) 38th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7864 District Office: (425) 257-1769 E-mail Rep. Jim Moeller Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 436A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7872 E-mail Rep. Mary Helen Roberts (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 315 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7950 District Office: (425) 744-3130 E-mail Rep. Geoff Simpson (D) 47th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 426 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7918 E-mail Rep. Brendan Williams Majority External Relations Leader (D) 22nd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132F Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7940 E-mail When it comes to the Nanny State legislation, you can always count on finding a "D" after the sponsor's names. Quote
Doug Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 House Bill 2619 Sponsors Here they are folks. Doubtless, they're 'way' more knowledgeable about mountaineering and PLBs, ELTs and EPIRBs than anyone else! Here's their contact information. Let's have our voices heard gang, especially the professional guides among us (read real government intrusion here). Link to their emails: Rep. Sherry Appleton (D) 23rd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 424 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7934 E-mail Rep. Jim Jacks (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 322 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7924 E-mail Rep. Roger Goodman (D) 45th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 320 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7878 District Office: (425) 739-1810 E-mail Rep. Marko Liias (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 434 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7972 District Office: (425) 776-7959 E-mail Rep. John McCoy (D) 38th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7864 District Office: (425) 257-1769 E-mail Rep. Jim Moeller Deputy Speaker Pro Tempore (D) 49th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 436A Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7872 E-mail Rep. Mary Helen Roberts (D) 21st LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 315 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7950 District Office: (425) 744-3130 E-mail Rep. Geoff Simpson (D) 47th LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 426 John L. O'Brien Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7918 E-mail Rep. Brendan Williams Majority External Relations Leader (D) 22nd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT Olympia Office: 132F Legislative Building PO Box 40600 Olympia, WA 98504-0600 (360) 786-7940 E-mail When it comes to the Nanny State, you can always count on finding a "D" after the legislator's name. Don't you find it interesting that someone like me, bleeding heart liberal, is the one outing them? Quote
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