Hugh Conway Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Like LA in the 80s - Paradise but you can't get anywhere Quote
DRep Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) I seem to get burned nearly every time I attempt a cragging getaway at Index these days. If it is an afterwork attempt-- on the way. On a weekend trip- on the way home. I've many times made it home to Seattle from 11worth over i-90 faster than some trips coming home from a day of cragging at index. As a result, I've limited my after work cragging to North Bend with the 6-8 lanes of freeway and been more inclined to ski other resorts instead of Stevens. I know very little, however I've heard rumors that the local businessmen's associations in both Sultan and Goldbar have contributed to the problem by blocking new construction projects, free grant money offered by the state, and stoplight changes because the gridlock is good for business. Some climbers say that it is one's civic duty to boycott the businesses in these two towns and instead wait to buy food, gas, drinks, and use the restroom until reaching Monroe. I'm sure somebody on cc.com knows the goings on. Wow Jens, you and many others need to open your eyes to the source of the problem and not try to blame it on the people who live in those towns. The whole reason for the traffic stems from too many people using a road that could never handle that much traffic even before the stoplights. I live a mile up the road from the first stop light when you're heading west and before the light was put in, we (among 1,000 other residents) wouldn't ever be able to get onto US2 on sunday let alone any sunny holiday. The business owners have nothing to do with the traffic, I have family friends on the Sultan City Council and they are all honest people who wouldn't allow something like that to happen. The residents from Monroe to Index would like nothing more than to see the highway expanded thus improving traffic flow. We have never been offered free grant money from the state for this. We would have accepted it if offered. You think you're pissed off for waiting in traffic one day so you can get home to Seattle? Try living here and having all of you clog up the one road out of town Jens - Please refrain from making unsubstantiated claims. A boycott of the business's in these towns wouldn't help anyone. Edited April 7, 2009 by DRep Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 You think you're pissed off for waiting in traffic one day so you can get home to Seattle? Try living here and having all of you clog up the one road out of town Jens Good post Jens. I make a point of letting locals make a left or right turn through the Hwy 2 clusterf*** when it's bumper to bumper. I'm sure our hipsters here just say "f' em". Quote
DirtyHarry Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 The selflessness. Someone give this man the Nobel Fucking Peace Prize. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 The selflessness. Someone give this man the Nobel Fucking Peace Prize. You're just an asshole through and through, aren't you? Quote
DirtyHarry Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 You don't exactly come across as Mr. Rogers either. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 WTF! Just because I'm hip doesn't mean I'm not cool. Jeez people, give us beautiful people a break. It isn't easy being better than you lowlies every day. Quote
olyclimber Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I think I'll just move the mirror into this room. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) B 52 strike. Daisy cutters, preferably. The gridlock began to happen immediately when the first stop light went in, so the 'volume' argument is bullshit. There's not a single business in those three towns worth saving. As a bonus, Washington's meth problem would be cut down by half in the process. That stretch of Hwy 2 is such a great place to pick up an unsupervised teen, though. WTF? Two words: SHIT HOLES Recommendation: Aerial removal Edited April 8, 2009 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 A napalm strike on that fucking strobe lit coffee dump near Index is also strongly recommended. Quote
Tokogirl Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Yes, turning from Hwy 2 down my street in Leavenworth, unless someone is gracious enough to let me in or out, can be an inconvience. I really feel for the medic and fire truck drivers having to weave through Leavenworth because folks on a busy weekend won't get out of the f**king way (excuse my French but a neighbor had to wait 15 - 20 minutes for the medic to get to our street and it is at most 5 minutes away). Many folks took Hwy 2 this last Sunday due to the info. on the recorded DOT radio that Snoqualmie was closed (1 or 2 lanes) for avalanche control?! Quote
DirtyHarry Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 folks on a busy weekend won't get out of the f**king way This definitly isn't confined to 11worth. You'd be suprised ... Quote
eric8 Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 The problem is the last traffic light in sultan the one on the west side of town. Once you make it through that light your home free. I wish they would change the timing on that light. That said I rarely have a problem when I climb until dark. Right before it gets dark is the best conditions at index anyways. Even more so when its nice out so lots of people are going to be out driving. Usually its worst between 4 and 7pm. Quote
prole Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 You used to just be able to stop at the Booby Trap, drink 6 or 8 beers and just fly back to I-5 no problem... Quote
ivan Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 You used to just be able to stop at the Booby Trap, drink 6 or 8 beers and just fly back to I-5 no problem... "beer: the solution to, and cause of, all of life's little problems" - homer simpson Quote
Choada_Boy Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) I agree with the B-52 strike, but you'll need ground penetrating Bunker Busters to get at the gas-station-nachos-eating troglodydic Queen that spawns the locals, with their hunger for meth and man-animal relations, from her pus leaking and mutant-swollen abdomen. Edited April 8, 2009 by Choada_Boy Quote
tomtom Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 That stretch of Hwy 2 is such a great place to pick up an unsupervised teen, though. Too much information, bub. Quote
Hugh Conway Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 That stretch of Hwy 2 is such a great place to pick up an unsupervised teen, though. Too much information, bub. tvash is holding out a big bunch of rock candy - those aren't teens, they're 40 year meth addicts who've got it confused Quote
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