kayfire Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Does anyone know if it’s true that the Mutineers’ crag class will be at Vantage Saturday and Sunday (April 4-5)? I’m legitimately curious because a Mutineers class was there a few weeks ago and it was a bit of a clusterfuck/dufus fest; 15 neophytes and 5 idiot instructors, all wearing gators, convertible pants, and helmets adorned with duct tape and the wearer’s name in big black letters, all mobbing the area’s most popular routes. In general the area was busy, so I had to wait to climb some routes, but the routes the Mutineers were mobbing were unavailable all day. I guess there’s nothing, per se, wrong with hijacking a route for an entire day, it’s just annoying; hence, if this ridiculous group is going to be there, I’d rather stay away. BTW, isn’t Vantage kind of a fucked up place for a “crag” class? What’s being taught exactly? How to clip bolts? How to clip one or two daisys to a hanger affixed to a Rawl 5-piece? I mean, there is some great trad at Vantage (IMHO), but most of it is going to be too difficult for most folks in a crag class (also, there really--IMHO--isn’t enough real estate when it come to “easy” trad routes, so it’s not an ideal place to teach a (large) class). baa baa baa baa baa baa baa baa baa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishopp66 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 That's awful big talk from a guy waiting to do a 5.7 route, as we all know, the mounties class probably won't get past the Feathers. I have a solution, man-up and do some routes harder than a .9 and I can guarantee you there will be no class of students holding you up. Even on at the Feathers there are a few 9's and 10's that I almost never see students doing. Stop whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frenchy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 carry your ass to the powerhouse wall biznatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AR_Guy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Or head all the way down over toward the river. Last time I was out there, the parking lot was full, so there were quite a few folks in the general area. I think we saw all of two other people all day down on 'our' part of the wall. Had it totally to ourselves. It was a fun day of 5.7 to 5.9 sport and one 5.7 gear route. The new guide book is great for getting away from the more well known routes (like those listed in Weekend Rock)...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 would you forgive them if they built a giant mountie-worthy privy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 If you want to enjoy a day or weekend of climbing, Vantage is clearly the wrong option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadug Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 For the most part Vantage is a shitty cragging area. It is only going to become a bigger shit hole with no shitters. It is good they go there as to not clog up a real climbing crag elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 To answer the OP's question, YES. Rumor has it that there will be folks aiding out there as well. (And yes, if you think free climbing choss is shitty, aiding it is worse.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinWoods Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 If your really that concerned in figuring out when the mountaineers are going to be climbing just look at there site. It has there dates and times. http://www.mountaineers.org/source/aTrips/Tripselection.cfm?at=cli&ss=yes#marker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think there's some pretty good routes at (disad)Vantage. But solitude and the Sunshine Wall on sunny early spring days do not mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayfire Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 To answer the OP's question, YES. Rumor has it that there will be folks aiding out there as well. (And yes, if you think free climbing choss is shitty, aiding it is worse.) WTF, why would you want to aid at Vantage!? Geez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crillz Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 To answer the OP's question, YES. Rumor has it that there will be folks aiding out there as well. (And yes, if you think free climbing choss is shitty, aiding it is worse.) WTF, why would you want to aid at Vantage!? Geez! Probably the same F*n reasons you want to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayfire Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 To answer the OP's question, YES. Rumor has it that there will be folks aiding out there as well. (And yes, if you think free climbing choss is shitty, aiding it is worse.) WTF, why would you want to aid at Vantage!? Geez! Probably the same F*n reasons you want to go there. Ok, now that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions and i want them answered immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Aiding at Vantage? Why not just bring a car jack and see how many columns you can knock over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What do you call aiding at Vantage? A Mountaineer trying to free a 5.9. Badump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Aiding at Vantage? Why not just bring a car jack and see how many columns you can knock over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions and i want them answered immediately That's not a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinner Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) To answer the OP's question, YES. Rumor has it that there will be folks aiding out there as well. (And yes, if you think free climbing choss is shitty, aiding it is worse.) WTF, why would you want to aid at Vantage!? Geez! Probably the same F*n reasons you want to go there. Ok, now that makes sense. Nice! Get slammed 4 times early, then a couple of somewhat helpful answers, who give you the bonus-insult of making you look like a jackass through actual responses, and you choose to respond to.... Edited April 4, 2009 by pinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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