prole Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Whoever put in the skin-track out of Swift Creek last week should have been aborted. You fail. Read a fucking book. Volken/Wheeler perhaps; Free Skiing is good too, but I doubt you can even tie your shoes. Illogical, unnecessarily meandery and strenuous with no coherent plan or destination. Your skin track sucked. Next time sit at the bottom and wait for someone else to come along and put it in for you or go back to snowboarding. Edited February 8, 2009 by prole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 There's always that other option where you make your own skin track instead of enduring one you don't like and then bitching about it on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 That would cover the slope in skin tracks, which also sucks. Do it right the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I remember doing a track with a Josh K recently. We were very happy that it was about to snow and cover up our own disastrous track!!!!LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I thought this was gonna be about your girlfriend's arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Maybe you pissed off someone in the parking lot and they were fu'ing with you. Hmmm, sounds like something I might do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah, folks can lay down some shitty skin tracks. I'm more inclined to say make your own better ones. Sometimes not, but most times you can do it without trashing the downhill slopes. Â If we were going to get into idiots on backcountry snow, the king idiot is the snow shoe crowd. Yes at one time it was a good way to travel on snow, but a long time ago folks came up with the ski. People are set in their ways, but if you are too lazy to learn to ski then stay the fuck out of the skin track. A few skiers worked to break a trail. It's for skiers. Â I know if you're on slow shoes you think you can cut your work load breaking a trail by taking advantage of a skin track. Sorry folks you picked a crappy tool pay the price. Don't screw up the skin track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaredSilly Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I do not mind the shoers as for the most they do not totally fuck up the like booters. I have chewed out a few booters for screwing up a skin track. With the advent of fat skis - skin track etiquette has gone to to hell. Last winter I penned an article on simple backcountry etiquette. One point was that putting in a skin track is like doing doing community service. A track that goes up as steep as possible is dumb - though longer a more gentle track is faster and less work. More and more I find that I do cut my own track after some bonehead with fat skis comes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've been up and down that trail 20 or so times and I can never remember being annoyed at others tracks. Probably because I've been so pissed off at the snow-machines down below. If you're on foot you're a friendly as far as I’m concerned. I've had snow machines throw beer cans at us and blast by near the parking lot attempting to rooster tail us with snow. I was mad enough to throw down on that dude but he sped off like a pansy... Beside that, you can make tree-line quick enough. From there you can lay tracks wherever you want. Man, I need to get up there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 This whole thread is a fucking joke. If skiers are taking the path of least resistance up/along a slope, then it is understandable why snowshoers and booters would too. I have never stomped on top of a ski track when on showshoes--because I'm a skier too-- but I don't get upset at others that do. Do skiers own the fucking hills now? I used to become annoyed when downhill boots would obliterate a nice uphill boot-track, until I realized my annoyance was a symptom of inadequate physical conditioning. I suspect this is what is at the root of Prole's irritability. Also; how fat is too fat? I'm skiing a 122/95/114--now considered "mid fat"--am I not "allowed" to use an existing track? Who's gonna stop me? Do you guys bitch when it starts snowing too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Fat skis don't shralp skin tracks, booters and slowshoers do. Booting a skin track is bad form, as is being from Tacoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Fat skis don't shralp skin tracks, booters and slowshoers do. Booting a skin track is bad form, as is being from Tacoma. Â Exactly. Â I've skied plenty of places like the bc out of Whitewater (Nelson BC). Lots of folks skin and snowshoe. The tracks are distinct, and it's common to correct folks about the right uptrack for them. It takes some effort to break a skin track. If you choose slowshoes pick a different line. Â True there are some unavoidable conflicts like the waterfall zone on the Phantom Slides, but once through the confined track zone there's no reason to ruin the rest of the skin track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGinnis Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 You could try finding another way up  [img:center]http://i.pbase.com/v3/32/594732/2/49301337.DSC01177.jpg[/img]  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Oh that's a good way in the right place, but not for day skiing with any easy human powered approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I do not mind the shoers as for the most they do not totally fuck up the like booters. Â Take your head out of your ass before you speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It was probably Gary's dump-worker crush that did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 I have never stomped on top of a ski track when on showshoes--because I'm a skier too-- Â Â A "snowshoe-er" and a skier?! Man, you really are a tosser. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Whoever put in the skin-track out of Swift Creek last week should have been aborted. You fail. Read a fucking book. Volken/Wheeler perhaps; Free Skiing is good too, but I doubt you can even tie your shoes. Illogical, unnecessarily meandery and strenuous with no coherent plan or destination. Your skin track sucked. Next time sit at the bottom and wait for someone else to come along and put it in for you or go back to snowboarding. Â you're the dumbass for following it. maybe they put it in just to get a workout or to screw with later visitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 This whole thread is a fucking joke. If skiers are taking the path of least resistance up/along a slope, then it is understandable why snowshoers and booters would too. I have never stomped on top of a ski track when on showshoes--because I'm a skier too-- but I don't get upset at others that do. Â Do you get upset when others pee on the skin track? Â Do skiers own the fucking hills now? Â No. But it just takes one snowshoer to ruin a skin track for all following skiers. The collective need for ease for the skiers overrides the need for ease for the one snowshoer. More than one showshoer? Then they should take turns breaking their own track (which will likely be a straighter line than the skin track). Â An analogy would be that I don't own a public bathroom, but I'm gonna be annoyed if someone left without flushing their shit down the toilet. Â Or another analogy.. tokin' in the Muir hut.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 what's wrong with tokin in the muir hut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Might be bad if you're an Olympic swimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 what's wrong with tokin in the muir hut? Â Especially when you ask first and offer to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Whoever put in the skin-track out of Swift Creek last week should have been aborted. You fail. Read a fucking book. Volken/Wheeler perhaps; Free Skiing is good too, but I doubt you can even tie your shoes. Illogical, unnecessarily meandery and strenuous with no coherent plan or destination. Your skin track sucked. Next time sit at the bottom and wait for someone else to come along and put it in for you or go back to snowboarding. Â somebody call the waaaaahmbulance! Â Hey Prole, maybe they should pay your student loans too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Might be bad if you're an Olympic swimmer. Â well, I am a champion breast-stroker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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