Mal_Con Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Actually it is just like Nam in 72 or 73. We have not defeated or killed off the "Insurgents" they are still there have not surrendered and still have their guns. JUST LIKE IN 75 THE NVA came back so will they as soon as we turn it over to "our iraqis". Same as it ever was. Quote
billcoe Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Good luck Scott. I speak for all wishing you well over there. The headline today was that the Iraqis want us out in 2008. Hopefully no one will be needed over there afterwards and peace can return to those folks. Â Best to you. Â _______________________________________________________________ Bizarre, I really saw that headline earlier, and just went to fetch it to link the story here.....I couldn't find it anywhere via google. Perhaps "We have never been at war with Oceania"?Opps, "we have always been at war with Oceania". Edited June 4, 2008 by billcoe Quote
No. 13 Baby Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Scott: you yourself are a threat to these fucking losers. You have convictions and have acted on them. They don't and never will. Â Battle cry of the chickenhawk! Quote
whirlwind Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 just two things man. no one called any of our soldiers in iraq anything, other than what they are, brave men and women stuck in an unfortuinate situation. it shouldn't be glorified as the lose of life by them or an human being over there is simply a waste. the war is pointless, poorly concived, and based prodomantly on lies you cant try and justify our ocupation there by any means. We destroyed an entire culture, with roots far deeper than ours. we've killed 100's of thousands of people, displaced god knows how many more. and created a hotter more volitile enemy makeing america less safe and in fact less free. and weither we leave now or in 20 yrs the situation will be the same other diference is the longer we try to hold off the inevitable, the higher the causulties to us and inicent iraqi's. is there a good withdrawal plan, probly not, but thats what we should be working on as of late, not sending more troops into the oven. Quote
whirlwind Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 and i do hope the best for you and your "co-workers" btw, and when you get back ill buy you all the beer you can drink. Quote
sk Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Keep trying kid, you're still Adamson lite. Â Â okay that just made my whole day. Â Hey RedMonk... take is easy buddy, keep your head down and your ass out of (too much) trouble. Quote
Hendershot Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Why do oil prices always seem to start rising soon before an election? Maybe if we could replace the fear of terrorists with the fear of $10/gal gasoline, then the voting public will remain scared enough to elect another arabophobic warlord! Â I could have sworn gas prices went down before the last house/senate election. Quote
Hendershot Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Oh, but his percipitates another question. Is there a corelation between the war in Iraq & the market price of oil? Quote
Mal_Con Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Not really but a big correlation between debt and the value of the $ and the price of oil which follows. Quote
foraker Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) Scott, if you aren't just trolling, maybe you need to take a step away from shit for a bit and re-evaluate. I imagine there are probably one or two people around who have issues with soliders, per se, but I couldn't name them. I think we all have nothing but the highest regard for the men and women who serve. Plenty of lefties around these parts who understand the the need for national defense. This doesn't mean we can't fulfill our responsibilities as citizens and express our opinions about the war (pro or con) or those who sent our young men and women into harm's way. No one wishes harm on you or your comrades, regardless of whether they want you home or not. We understand that you might want to complete your mission (whatever that may be these days), but that isn't for your or your colleagues to decide, just as it wasn't your choice to be sent. God speed and come home safe. Edited June 4, 2008 by foraker Quote
ashw_justin Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I could have sworn gas prices went down before the last house/senate election. I know, right! It's like they'll do anything it takes for me to convince myself that everything is about oil! Â Yeah WOOOO! We got number 3, bitches! And now we can just walk into any of the other top 5! Yeeehaaaaw! Â Quote
fear_and_greed Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 This poor kid gets the "Dumb shit of the week award" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=4981945&page=1 Â Quote
Fairweather Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 This poor kid gets the "Dumb shit of the week award" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=4981945&page=1 Someone should kick your face in. Quote
olyclimber Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 don't agree with being there, but i have to agree with fw on this one. that is a sad story, and at that age it could have easily been me. i have friends over there right now that would do the same. Quote
sk Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 This poor kid gets the "Dumb shit of the week award" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=4981945&page=1 Â why is that? becuase he saved 4 lives? jeez last i knew saving people was something to be revered. i thought that kid did just about the most giving thing he could do. Quote
Dechristo Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 This poor kid gets the "Dumb shit of the week award" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=4981945&page=1 Â Just living up to your avatar? Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 "no one called any of our soldiers in iraq anything, other than what they are, brave men and women stuck in an unfortuinate situation." Â Except the one who sugested our low casualty numbers were based upon the fact that we spent our deployments in FOB's Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Good luck Scott. I speak for all wishing you well over there. The headline today was that the Iraqis want us out in 2008. Hopefully no one will be needed over there afterwards and peace can return to those folks. Â Best to you. Â _______________________________________________________________ Bizarre, I really saw that headline earlier, and just went to fetch it to link the story here.....I couldn't find it anywhere via google. Perhaps "We have never been at war with Oceania"?Opps, "we have always been at war with Oceania". Â We will be there for a long time. Some of us. Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 This poor kid gets the "Dumb shit of the week award" http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=4981945&page=1 Â Yeah... we can all see past your (and those like you) thin veneer saying "we support our troops" charade. It is one thing to not support a war. Â It is quite another to defame someone who died to save 4 of his friends and also died to protect your right to say such filth. Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Scott, if you aren't just trolling, maybe you need to take a step away from shit for a bit and re-evaluate. I imagine there are probably one or two people around who have issues with soliders, per se, but I couldn't name them. I think we all have nothing but the highest regard for the men and women who serve. Plenty of lefties around these parts who understand the the need for national defense. This doesn't mean we can't fulfill our responsibilities as citizens and express our opinions about the war (pro or con) or those who sent our young men and women into harm's way. No one wishes harm on you or your comrades, regardless of whether they want you home or not. We understand that you might want to complete your mission (whatever that may be these days), but that isn't for your or your colleagues to decide, just as it wasn't your choice to be sent. God speed and come home safe. Â The converse is also true; it is not for armchair quarterbacks to decry the actions of service men. Any of you who think you know the dynamics over there are sorely mistaken. No matter how much you read or how much you research, there is only one way to find out what is going on there. Â This is not Vietnam nor is it WWII; this is a very complicated war with varying levels of combatants and sentiments. Â There IS real progress and the fact that the Iraquis think they are ready to take the reigns is a good sign. Â True, we could have stayed out of Iraq and let them live under dictatorial rule and be victims of genocide, but I truly think that Iraq will be better for it and perhaps the entire region. History can be the only measure of this though. Â I don't care why we went or who benefeited. These are questions above my pay grade, but I do believe we are doing good things that will leave Iraq better than we found it. It was a great cost to them as well as us, but long term I sincerely believe that they will be better off. Â Â Quote
kevbone Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Scott, are you saying you support this guy? Â Â Â Â Â Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 You don't know shit douche. I don't support anyone but the United States of America. Â It is not my place to say what I think of the President. The only place I get to do that is in the voters' box. Â I do, on the other hand, think that what we are doing is worthwhile. Quote
kevbone Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 It is not my place to say what I think of the President.   I so disagree with you on this. You, me, us….we all have a place to call out our president’s bullshit. I hate the mfer…..but he is our president (even if he is the first president to be appointed). You have every right to hold him accountable for his actions. At least for now you still have the right to say what you will about anyone.  Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Iraq does not have WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.  Taking out Sudam Hussein is one thing. But please do not infer that taking him out had or does have anything to do with 9/11 or out countries well being.  Quote
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