007_dup1 Posted August 4, 2004 Author Posted August 4, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Quote
pzack Posted August 4, 2004 Posted August 4, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Everything you need to know is in FOH. Quote
chris Posted August 4, 2004 Posted August 4, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? To first look for partners and then to post this question can only mean one thing...007 is a troller! Quote
sobo Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Â Yeah, I've done it quite a lot. It's really quite simple. Go to your local international airport, buy a ticket, board the plane, have a few complimentary drinks, and once the plane gets to cruising altitude, you've effectively acclimatized to 8,000 meters. Â Shouldn't take more than an hour or two once you take off! Quote
AaronB Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Â Yeah, I've done it quite a lot. It's really quite simple. Go to your local international airport, buy a ticket, board the plane, have a few complimentary drinks, and once the plane gets to cruising altitude, you've effectively acclimatized to 8,000 meters. Â Shouldn't take more than an hour or two once you take off! Â Actually, "At a 39,000 foot cruise altitude, the cabin pressure is equivalent to 6,900 feet or pressure of 11.5 psi (about) 450 feet less than Mexico City. reference here Quote
olyclimber Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Â Good evening, I do not have any experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization, but I can tell you all about time tables. Generally, you read them left to right or top to bottom. For instance, my bus time table requires you to read right to left to determine which were the bus stop location is, and top to bottom to determine what time the bus will be there. Here is an example. Now not all time tables are like this. Sometimes they reverse the up/down left/right bit, and sometimes they do other tricky stuff. Here is an example of when they get tricky. As you can see, there is a lot of information here. Not only height in meters and feet, but also laid out by date and time. After you spend a little bit of time, however, you'll find that time tables are a piece of cake, and you'll be sending 8000m peaks with your eyes shut. Good luck! Quote
griz Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables? Â Clueless, you're baaack! We've now got a problem though... cuz with that question we got some serious thread drift goin' on... WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! Perhaps a Mod could move this thread to the Newbie Forum now? Quote
sobo Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Good morning, does anyone have 1st hand experience with 8000m altitude acclimatization and time tables?  Yeah, I've done it quite a lot. It's really quite simple. Go to your local international airport, buy a ticket, board the plane, have a few complimentary drinks, and once the plane gets to cruising altitude, you've effectively acclimatized to 8,000 meters.  Shouldn't take more than an hour or two once you take off!  Actually, "At a 39,000 foot cruise altitude, the cabin pressure is equivalent to 6,900 feet or pressure of 11.5 psi (about) 450 feet less than Mexico City. reference here  That wasn't the point, Aaron. The point was that was a smartass answer to an inane question from an obstensibly clueless person who supposedly is leading an expedition to an 8000m peak.  See olyclimber's post immediately following yours. That was the target for which I was aiming. Just good ol' down home smartass answers to a blatant troll of a thread. Quote
AaronB Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 That wasn't the point, Aaron. The point was that was a smartass answer to an inane question from an obstensibly clueless person Thats what I was shooting for Quote
sobo Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 That wasn't the point, Aaron. The point was that was a smartass answer to an inane question from an obstensibly clueless person Thats what I was shooting for  Aw right, 1 point for cleverness. But I didn't ask any questions... (although some would call me clueless...) Quote
jefffski Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 When these climbers get to an icefall, burkshard, or a hanging cornice... Â burkshard--definition anyone? Â hanging cornice--as opposed to a non hanging cornice? Quote
marek Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 007! There is no easy way up 26,000 er !!!! Get it ? So stop dreaming and start earning your summit dreams. Marek Quote
007_dup1 Posted August 5, 2004 Author Posted August 5, 2004 Frommers is a handy reference, thanx  3 weeks seems to be just enough time for acclimitization on Cho Oyu, taking into account training climbs will lead up to this. Might fly our group to Denver for a power weekend with 2 or 3 "altitude climbs" just before this. Suggestions welcome.  Acclimatizing between camps, anyone know if this would be an acceptable timetable for Cho Oyu?:  3000m-5200m, 7days, light exercise 5200m Base camp, 7 days 6200m A base camp, 4 cycles, 500mb w/o o2, 6days 6700m camp II, 3 cycles, 4days 7400m intermediate pt, 2cycles, 3days 8201m tippy top, 1hr, o2 (assuming decent Wx)  Please bring any real concerns on this timetable or other trip concerns forward.  If anyone is still interested in this 8000m climb, we still have a few spots left. Once again, no discrimination but experience level will be proven on a few climbs. thanx Quote
griz Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 anyone know if this would be an acceptable timetable for Cho Oyu?:Â Â Â does that answer your question? Quote
Stefan Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 Your plans sound solid to me 007. I like the trip to Denver too. My recommendation drive to Leadville (I think it is something like 10K feet) and just hang out and drink beer. You will get acclimatized in Leadville with no problem. Plan your trip on leaving from Denver and going straight to China/Nepal or whatever your choice of entry is. Just do what is natural to you. Don't listen to these other yahoos. They don't know anything about climbing 8000meter peaks....well I know Marek knows a little something. Follow your dreams, you can do it. BTW, do us a trip report too--we want to know how far you got. Quote
Ricardo_Montalban Posted August 5, 2004 Posted August 5, 2004 3 weeks seems to be just enough time for acclimitization on Cho Oyu...  3000m-5200m, 7days, light exercise 5200m Base camp, 7 days 6200m A base camp, 4 cycles, 500mb w/o o2, 6days 6700m camp II, 3 cycles, 4days 7400m intermediate pt, 2cycles, 3days 8201m tippy top, 1hr, o2 (assuming decent Wx) you may want to take a closer look at your timetable. it is 3 weeks and 6 days  tippy top??? Quote
layton Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 Hey! I'll go. Let me know when we are leaving. I will promise to write the best trip report known to man. I have attitude and have climbed many of the cascade jewels! I don't have any money, but I can take the photo from the summit. Gimme me a couple weeks notice before we go! Quote
Alpinfox Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 Â DUDE! Â You should rent a hot air balloon and go up to 20K feet for a while before you go. That would be good altitudamization. Â Quote
007_dup1 Posted August 10, 2004 Author Posted August 10, 2004 Stefan and Alpinefox thanx for your suggestions, your forgeting about the the combination of exercising while in ambient lower pressure. This conditioning will leave a person with altitude or acclimitization for a short period. (based on 14k weekends, usually only a week) Â Does anyone know the phsiology on how long "altitude" will last in da body? Â The training is taking place on the peaks of the Cascades and maybe on a few 14'ers in the Rockies. Going over to the Himilayas will undoubtedly be an adjustment, but a calculated one. As you can see, even low-land training makes this summit attainable. Quote
Dru Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I'd rather train with Lycra Babe in the Hypoxic Tent http://www.hypoxictent.com  Quote
iain Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 why can't you just stick a bag over your head? Quote
Alpinfox Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 Does anyone know the phsiology on how long "altitude" will last in da body? Â I have a PhD in altitudamization, and I can say that altitude has been known to last in da human body for up to 17 years. Â Fact. Quote
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