tomtom Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 You must understand how powerful the camera is on the bottom of that jetranger. So why do those pinhead newscopters fly 300 ft above my apartment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Post deleted by Gary_Yngve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 This is in no way meant to trivialize the accident but how does the belayer (below the leader) come to break his wrist while belaying? That's what the ranger lady said happened on TV. Did the leader fall and the belayer's hand get caught at a weird angle? Strange. Maybe, upon the leader's fall, the belayer pitched forward and then broke his wrist when he tried to catch himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonb Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 they always seem to pull everyone they can off even if they aren't injured. for example last time the guy wasn't injured and they still plucked him off the next morning. I think they just want to get everyone out of there as long as they have the choppers in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 One of the climbers has apparently died. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 shit, bad news. one of the climbers died and the other one is on the way to Harborview. http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_060304WABrainierrescueLJ.2267197d6.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 This is in no way meant to trivialize the accident but how does the belayer (below the leader) come to break his wrist while belaying? That's what the ranger lady said happened on TV. Did the leader fall and the belayer's hand get caught at a weird angle? Strange. Maybe, upon the leader's fall, the belayer pitched forward and then broke his wrist when he tried to catch himself. it may have been a rockfall induced fall? Sad news indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 As always, _you_need_to_wait_ to get accurate information. It's pointless to even talk about stuff like belaying etc. Why even speculate? First it was a broken hand. Now someone is dead. You are not getting anything close to reality in live rescue coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 The reporting is all over the map on this incident. The aforementioned King5 web article has one climber dead, one climber being flown out with a broken hand. This KIRO web article has one climber with a "broken back being flown out, with the other walking out with a "wrist injury". And then there was the mentioned confusion about the KOMO article. I would expect that the King5 article is probably accurate, expecting the worst....but best to wait to hear the facts from the people who were/are actually involved in the rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CascadeClimber Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 The reporting is all over the map on this incident. The aforementioned King5 web article has one climber dead, one climber being flown out with a broken hand. This KIRO web article has one climber with a "broken back being flown out, with the other walking out with a "wrist injury". And then there was the mentioned confusion about the KOMO article. I would expect that the King5 article is probably accurate, expecting the worst....but best to wait to hear the facts from the people who were/are actually involved in the rescue. The video feed showed the second person being flown out in a cargo net. This sucks. My condolences to friends and family. -Loren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I don't even know what to say. Fuck squared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkemp Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Oh man, really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalX Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 not that this means anything, but i was watching the streaming coverage and they said that one guy was lifted out and the other had an injured wrist and was continuing down with the rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Ya, this is bizarre. You gotta wonder if people are confusing it with the last incident. The PI has both of them still alive. Heres to hoping the better outcome is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Why even speculate? First it was a broken hand. Now someone is dead. You are not getting anything close to reality in live rescue coverage. Cause we're humans...it's our job. Don't bother complaining about it or fighting it, cause it aint gonna change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 It appears that sources using AP feeds have both climbers alive, and the local reports have one dead and the other flown out with an injured wrist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Ramsey Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Here's hoping they're both alive. (need fingers crossed graemlin...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 "Ryan Thill of the Pierce County, Wash., Medical Examiner's Office confirmed that one of the two male climbers had died but could not say which one it was. She said she would probably not know until late at night. The names of the two climbers were being withheld until the families were notified." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 damn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose_Brie Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 about 90 minutes ago I saw a black hawk helicopter land at harborview. If one guy is walking out there is at least hope for the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 AP is now updated. One of the climbers did die. RIP. From the PI: "Mount Rainier National Park spokesman Barry Fraissinet identified the deceased climber as Jon Cahill, a captain with the Auburn Fire Department, and his partner as Bellevue firefighter Mark H. Anderson. Both men were emergency medical technicians." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fear Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Fuck. Ditto that. The Mountain is hungry this year. Be extra cautious out there... I hope everyone else gets down ok. I know there was at least one other team still up there. Weather going to shit tomorrow night it seems -Fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbetoo Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 I just read on the AP wire that one of the injured climbers has died. It appears the guy they plucked off the ridge via helicopter was alive and injured, while the other climber, whom Northwest News Channel orginally thought was only slightly injured and was being helped down the mountain, was dead when rescuers arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternalX Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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