selkirk Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I'm looking for something light for a summit/day climb pack. Has anyone tried the the Serratus Genie, Mountainsmith Phantom, or the North Face Exocet. Would love to hear any other suggestions as well. Quote
Ade Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Serratus Genie rules. Very small, very light, very cheap. It doesn't have a back pad which either requires that you pack carefully or add one. It has a slot for one but no foam. You can by foam from http://www.friendlyfoam.com/ Quote
selkirk Posted May 13, 2004 Author Posted May 13, 2004 How about the Black Diamond Stone or Speed packs? Quote
Stephen_Ramsey Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I have the Exocet, and have used it for years. It is OK. My only real complaint is that it has only one ice axe loop, which is inconvenient when you have two ice tools (or two tools and a shovel, in winter). In my opinion, it is not really light enough to carry along in addition to your overnight pack, as a summit assault pack. But it is fine for day climbs and cragging. The buckle on the sternum strap tends to come loose, so you'll want to use tape or something to make sure it doesn't eventually fall off. Quote
dbb Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I've used the Lowe Alpine Attack Summit pack for the past few years and in my opinion it s! It weighs 1 lb w/o the foam pad, and something like 30L, 17.5 oz w/ the pad. It's basically just a sack with 1 ice axe loop (can be a pain there), but its real redeeming factor is that it has these wide foam-y shoulder straps. They make rock climbing in the pack extremely comfortable. The pack is a little pricey for a 'bag' ($50 at PMS), but it's been worth it for me. I've also seen this kind of shoulder strap on some little MEC summit packs that cost like $30 CDN. Quote
Rodchester Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 (edited) My buddy has the MountainSmith Auspex which is basically a larger version of the MS Phantom. Good packs, very lightweight, but at 3300 cubic inches and with a frame sheet and single stay the Phantom is not really a "summit pack." I would call it a good alpine mountaiuneering pack for summer trips traveling light for a night or two. If you want something smaller, take a look at Lowe Packs. they tend to make realy good smaller sumit type packs. They have a new one out that looks very cool. Alpine Attack 20 Good luck.... Edited May 13, 2004 by Rodchester Quote
Marko Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Serratus Genie rules. Very small, very light, very cheap. And two axe loops. Count me in for another enthusiastic vote for the Genie. Quote
Paul_K Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Another vote for the Genie. And another. I added a chest strap to mine. Anybody have a good idea as to how to carry pickets with one? Quote
chucK Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 me too. I've only used it once or twice but it seemed to work OK. Adding a chest strap is definitely something I figured I had to do after one trip. It's perfect for a summit pack since it's so damn light and folds up into nothing. It'll work for a dayclimb pack, but with its minimal accoutrements, you sacrifice a lot of bells and whistles that would be nice for those dayclimbs when you're not worried about 10 extra ounces. Quote
Ade Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 And another. I added a chest strap to mine. Anybody have a good idea as to how to carry pickets with one? That's the only drawback I've found with it. There isn't much scope for strapping stuff on the outside. The lid is also kind of small so it's hard to pack stuff under that too. Quote
gslater Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 And another. I added a chest strap to mine. Anybody have a good idea as to how to carry pickets with one? That's the only drawback I've found with it. There isn't much scope for strapping stuff on the outside. The lid is also kind of small so it's hard to pack stuff under that too. I've got a Genie too, and I'm thinking I may have to do a little creative modification to add a few additional task-specific attachment points. But other than that, it's a pretty sweet little pack, and nearly weightless. Folds up into pretty much nothing. Quote
Collin Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I use the dakine poacher pack when I plan to ride off the summit. It's a little on the heavy and small side but I can fit every thing I need for a day trip. One of the best things is that it has an front acess panal so you don't have to take your board/gear off the pack to get inside. It has plenty of straps for gear also. It's a very comfortable pack too. Dakine Poacher Pack Quote
John Frieh Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 You could buy a Wild Things Andinista and use it for the approach (5000 c.i.) as well as the summit push (compresses to 1800 c.i. via zippers). Stripped down (no foam, etc.) it weighs less than 2 lbs (at least the older models). I like the Lowe Alpine Attack Summit pack; it doubles as a sleeping bag stuff sack on the approach. The MEI one looks great also. Quote
Pro Mountain Sports Posted May 14, 2004 Posted May 14, 2004 At $40, 14 ounces, and 28 liters the Grivel Air Tech 28 is worth a look for packs that are similar to the Genie, and Lowe Alpine. Only one axe loop, but large enough to hold two axes and very cute. Quote
Ziff Posted May 14, 2004 Posted May 14, 2004 another vote for the genie. I added foam, chest strap, and compression straps and it still comes in at 20oz. Quote
Kevin_Ristau Posted May 15, 2004 Posted May 15, 2004 I have the Lowe Alpine 40 litre Alpien Attack Summit. Great little pack, very similar to the Genie but it comes with it's own foam. Great packs, they force you to think light. Quote
layton Posted May 16, 2004 Posted May 16, 2004 Genie! I too added another axe loop and a chest strap. I also cut a thin layer of foam to insert into the water bladder holder to keep the cam stems out of my spine (i got seriously stabbed on yak pk). I can solve your picket question easily... put the picket inside the pack and have it poke out on the side of the lid. simple. Quote
Coondog Posted May 16, 2004 Posted May 16, 2004 Umm, yeah, another vote for the Genie. For picket(s), I used 3mm cord to rig an extra loop off the bottom of the daisy chain, then biner'd to the top of the lid.... not quite as sexy to quickdraw gunslinger style if you were in arrest, but workable (if you're gumby flexible like me 'spose) Quote
Dru Posted May 16, 2004 Posted May 16, 2004 used to use a genie then i switched to the arcteryx khamsin 30 (employee discount helped) and when my 30 was stolen i went with the 38 instead.... i still think the 30 is the best... if you take out the back panel it folds up as small as the genie, weighs a little bit more but is way, way more comfortable and carries much better. i think it's discontinued though. RIP khamsin 30 Quote
snoboy Posted May 16, 2004 Posted May 16, 2004 I've overnight hiked with the Genie. It's definetely lacks places to put stuff on the outside, but that's why it weighs 16 oz. I have even figured a cool trick for carrying a pair of skis. I don't know if I can describe it, but maybe I will get around to taking a pic if anyone's interested. Quote
PaulB Posted July 24, 2004 Posted July 24, 2004 i think it's discontinued though. RIP khamsin 30 Discontinued, but still available. Coast Mountain is clearing out Khamisn and Bora 30's for $99 right now. Quote
JoshK Posted July 24, 2004 Posted July 24, 2004 I'm not sure why Arcteryx all of a sudden threw their pack line into the trash. The kahmsin series is awesome! the needle and RTs are not. Quote
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