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You could get rid of your stick clip with one of those.

Well it isn't a perpetual motion machine because it's using an outside power source ie the wind up high. As long as the energy it absorbs from the wind is sufficient it'll stay up and provide power.

What about all the embedded reporters. Are they not just tools of US policy? Don't they take photos of violence perpitrated by the US government? Is that somehow different than violence perpetrated by forces opposed to the US.

Please show me where I ever said that Fox news or, conservative talk radio need to be restricted. Way to jump to conclusions; but I suppose I shouldn't be supprised that kind of crappy thinking is what makes you a conservative. There is no proof that the photos in Iraq were staged; in fact the potographers had to run for their lives after the croud saw them taking photos. If the photo was staged don't you think the photo journalist would be invited to the event and encouraged to take pictures. Right or wrong there is always a lot of fucked up shit that goes on in war. That's what the picture of the contractors hanging from the bridge captures. I guess you and Pete don't have the stomach for viewing some of the concequences of going to war. Thats supprising concidering we were totally justified...I mean Sadam had all those biological and nuclear weapons that we found...(oh sorry he didn't )

I agree with Peter Puget and Fairweather. We should only be shown hapy friendly images of war...troops skipping off to battle, or happy familys burying pesky family members who were so fortuitously killed in battle. All those other pictures are just downers. What say we get rid of the first amendment so those wise people in charge can show us happy pictures and punish those trouble makers who are just so negative.

I heard the same report that Winter did. The AP hired and trained a number of Iraqies as photographers. The photographers did take a lot of risks getting the photos that are part of the prize. They were not random people hawking pictures of death to the AP.

Fuck String Cheese Incident, fuck Phish, fuck the dead, and fuck you hippy.

Oh come on you're smarter on that. The article isn't suppose to be either good or earth shattering. It's just an excuse to put pictures of hot chicks in the magazine. The goal is to boost the mags circulation. You ever heard of the Sports Illustrated Swim Suit issue. They need some body paint in there...and maybe a sheep or two.

Well then Women = 2*(SQRT(evil))

NOLSe, What often happens here to you is much like what happens when sharks smell blood in the water. You become the focus of a feeding frenzy. My advice is to follow one of 3 courses of action: One is to walk away. This can be hard to do, but it is the easiest thing to do if you don't have the temperment for the next 2. The next strategy is summed up by the best defence is a good offence. Go on the attack; don't try and be logical just go for the throat. This strategy is most effective if you can develope allies. A hint...you don't have to always get along with your allies. The third strategy is to deflect the attack. This is often the the most subtle one to pull off; so you may want to forget it till you've mastered #2. If you'd like advanced training I suggest spending a weekend with CrazyJZ, Rat, and a pallet of beer. At the end of the weekend you will either be strong enough to take the abuse head on or need to spend time in a mental ward. Anyhow for my part I'm going to try and walk away from bashing you; you're just too easy to get to. You're enthusiastic about climbing, which means you've got some big positive points in my book.

Jordo The american environmentalists dislike of structures like huts is fucking lame. Washington State could use some huts in the mountains; the wild areas of BC are much much bigger. If you want people to support parks and wild lands you need to get them out in it. Huts help in that respect. The also help consolidate the human footprint in a popular area. Instead of having 30 freeform campsites and folks shitting everywhere you can have one hut and an outhouse.

Ya know Squid boaters wear spray skirts

What about this pope. he's conservative when it comes to bolting.

Well then you must be in tight with some professional climbers...that's just sooo cool.

Are you a profesional climber NOLSe...that is just so incredible.

I didn't see any signs about raptor closures...so I guess they're done or we didn't go where they're still in effect.

CJZ and I went over to the Tieton this weekend. We got there late on Saturday and hiked up to the Royal Collumns. When we got there we ran into a group of Mounties who were trying to evacuate a badly hurt member. The story I got was that the climber fell 8' on a 5.4 route and did some kind of compound fracture on his ankle. It looked really nasty, and there was blood seeping through the bandages. CJZ helped cary some of their packs back to the road, and I and another member of their group helped the injured climber hobble on his good leg. We got him quite a ways down the trail before some EMS folks showed up. I was hoping we could get him to an easy point since I knew they were going to turn the whole thing into a circus. Sure enough there were soon about 20 firefighters there. The lead firefighter wanted to rope the injured climber down to the flats using 2 ropes and a tied off boulder. I set up a good anchor in a crack, but apparently they didn't trust anyone who didn't wear a firefighter uniform. So I just sat there and watched the circus. To their credit they did get the guy down without dropping him, but they turned a simple opperation into a major ordeal. All I can say is if I was hurt I'd rather crawl than go through that. On Sunday we wanted to go somewhere we hadn't been before, so we hiked up to Rainbow rocks. The climbing their is alright, but not nearly as good as the older Tieton areas. Then we drove home.

I've already got plans to go climb some nice basalt, and it ain't that shitty yet trendy basalt you like to climb at Frenchy Gully...Dickhead.

Well she just died. I'm not heartless, but I'm glad she did. I was getting really sick of constantly hearing about it on the news plus IMO it was the best thing for her.

The first step in curing your communism is admitting you're a communist. Mr Fairweather; Are you, or have you ever been a member of the communist party.

Well that sucks, but it's too late to change plans so Andy's it is.

Yeah if I need to,but I have to be pushed to the point. I changed Rudy's profile after he'd been a punk ass about skiing for a month or so. Rudy had a sense of hummor about it which may be sadly lacking when it comes to j_b.

I use it, and it works great. There is a limit to production that's smaller than the current US use of diesel.

Maybe you're just mad that you didn't think of, "evil homonym," first.

Gas prices are really elastic, but there is a breaking point. In the 70s the US got to the breaking point and the result was that Detriot wasn't able to build a reliable and fuel efficient car. We ended up with major economic problems and bought Japanese cars.