AlpineK

My chainsaw is my permit bitch.

Grumpy grumpy grumpy. Me, I'm in a good mood. I went climbing and cut down the tree at the base of Godzilla.

iain I think a good percentage of why Fairweather is so grumpy stems from the fact that he's posting at noon on a beautiful Sunday. I know you're only a peak bagger not a real climber Brian, but you should try and get out a little more. Here's a nice picture that should cheer you up Brian.

Chocolate chip. It was a nice sunny day at Index.

There's a market in Chicago that just started up that trades the rights to emmit carbon. I believe they measure the rights in tons of carbon emmited per year, so I'd not judge Jim on one week ot of the year. In fact most business measures are at shortest per quarter. Speaking of trading rights to emmit carbon my understanding that trading like this is a very effective way of dealing with environmental problems. I'm too lazy to search, but I believe the first time this model was used was for dealing with fluorocarbons. When trading first started a lot of environmental types thought that it wouldn't work and a more traditional set of regulations was the only solution, however the trading market proved to be a much simpler solution with less pain for all parties.

He didn't say anything wrong Brian. What he said was that Jim was driving to europe in a vehicle that gets 45 mpg. Each pasenger on the flight is also. In any case the things you do day in day out have a much greater bearing on your yearly consumption of stuff than what you do on vacation.

I heard that same story with only a few details changed about 8 or 9 years ago. I suspect urban myth.

As far as standards go fleet milage has gone down over the last 10 years. GW has offered a few carrots, but you need both a carrot and a stick. Who's to say that using less carbon is going to be a drag on the economy. Somebody's got to develope and market the emisions reducing technology; and you can bet they'll be making money. The more we sit on our hands the more the Japanese and europeans will have us at a technological disadvantage. Look at hybrids; Ford had to buy the technology from Toyota.

I have to respect DFA for getting a vote without putting out effort, but I'm hoping to come from behind to win it all. I just made a post that'll piss em off.

Well your president isn't even trying KK; perhaps if he showed some effort things might start improving. Can you say CAFE standards.

"Hansen's team, reporting Thursday in the journal Science, said they also determined that global temperatures will rise 1 degree Fahrenheit this century even if greenhouse gases are capped tomorrow." Mostly due to the fact we've already pumped a lot of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere already. Perhaps we should think about not making a bad situation worse.

You just love those buzwords. Do you drop your pants and bend over when the Rush Limbagh show starts? The media sure picked on Clinton; if they were a liberal media don't you think they would have tried to change the subject? Face it the media likes any train wreck involving powerful people.

Clearly you don't understand the theory of the feeding frenzy. The sharks smell Delay's blood in the water. Maybe Nancy P will be next; I don't know.

Mid May. I'll take May 17th.

Sucker.

I'd be pissed if someone tried to drag me to the opera. Fucking boring ass 18th century art form.

booga boooga booo....ugh.

It's gone That was a really good route.

You make me laugh. With your attitude nobody should make any kind of money off climbing. If you feel that way why not get rid of all your gear...I mean those whores don't deserve your hard earned money. I'm sure you can make everything you need.

hey asseyes- if you lived under soviet occupation you'd sing a different tune. Come on Bob that statue is now about the triumph of capitalism over communism. I mean a business owner (capitalist) bought that statue for cheap after all them ruskies were desparate to sell anything when their system went tits up. Shit there's even a Russian Sub down on the waterfront that someone got at a fire sale.

Oh yeah guide books are clearly the way to make bank. Shit man 9 guide books Chris must be sitting on the beach drinking a margarita and talking to his stock broaker.

Oh he's posting. He's just trying to build up the drama of his major lifetime achievement.

I've heard of the removable stickers; that sounds dumb but harmless. If you're proposing doing something permanent why not smack the SUV with a hammer a few times and then wait for the owner to show up then tell them to fuck off. Anything less is just being a sissy.

Dude I brought that up on the first page.

And is there an increase in mountain goat death when Mike Layton is climbing in a region.