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Mt. Hood is NOT Chamonix. There is but ONE SAR mission going on right now. Lets help make that job easier.

This is only relevant for the first two years of the policy. After that you're golden.

Yeah--if I was a mod that post would be edited out.

Good post, Pete. Thanks for doing the leg work on that one. Sign me up if they need help skinning around the mountain.

I noticed that you can get the ID MK2 again. Anyone tossed down the coin for one?

Guard detail with no mag in the weapon? I don't think so. Good on him for doing what he can to stay stoked.

Again, please keep the spray out of this thread.

You can purchase a dual-band phone to solve this problem.

MtnHigh's picture is of Hood in low snow. Cooper Spur is a steep, but easy downclimb with no need for raps. In these conditions, however, the avalanche danger would be pretty high.

I think you got bad info. Everytime I've been to Winthrop in the winter the road is plowed to where its gated. I'll be there for Christmas too. We're planning on doing some BC skiing.

Jon-- I think everyone's reaction is based on the tone of the thread title as well as your posts. While the questions you pose are valid, and may very well be ones we are all quietly thinking, the way you posed them comes across as arrogant and uncaring. The first rule of rescue is not to become a victim yourself. I like to think I know that mountain fairly well and there's no way I would head up there in 80 mph winds and zero visibility. The temp argument is a red herring--with all that snow blowing around and avy loading it would be incredibly dangerous and as others have pointed out, nearly impossible to find anyone dug in. Cheers to all the people involved in trying to rescue those men. I know if I was them I wouldn't want anyone heading up in these conditions for my sorry carcass.

Not that it matters, but it was 6% of gross income a few years ago. Did they raise it?

Campmor had down jackets for somewhere around 59 clams. Do a search for more info.

I didn't read the initial post or study but did they define what "charities" are? If its broadly defined to be any not-for-profit entity then that opens it up to political contributions as well. Hardly charitable endeavors.

And who are you going to have this conversation with when you climb Mt. Hood? Its a self-registration process. Only time I have talked to a ranger before climbing in the cascades is on Mt. Adams and Mt. Rainier. Personal responsibility. Edited to add:

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Certainly seem to be doing better than they did a few years ago.

Actually, Sherlock, is your OPINION. Just because you back it up with this doesn't make it a fact.

A little speculation is out of place in that particular thread where it was clear that friends, family and even the media were watching. You can armchair quarterback all you want but the fact is, no one knows at this time exactly what happened.

The prudent climber in the PNW sets out for an objective with a back-up recreational activity in mind. For example, skiing or boating.

How about a moderator editing the thread title?

Are you advocating for increased regulation of climbers by the government? Are you willing to pay for that? I'm certain there is a correlation between people "going for it" in questionnable conditions when they've traveled long distances or have a limited amount of time. Personal responsibility. We all take chances when we do what we do. Do I want increased regulation? Hell no.

Lets try and remember that loved ones may happen across this thread when looking for information. Keep the spray out of it. My thoughts go out to those guys.

I believe that providing reasoned, thoughful discussion about why you dislike bolting (as opposed to photo montages) may actually change someones opinion about the practice. If I understand these guys correctly, its not bolts in and of themselves that they dislike but rather the indiscriminate bolting ethos that has taken over some areas. I don't think its necessarily hypocritical to dislike bolts and climb sport routes.

I know of at least one case where a guy got drunk and passed out before turning off the propane heater in his tent. He never woke up. Be very careful.