olyclimber

yes. don't speculate. leave that to the vultures on the news sites. or go there and speculate and leave cc.com alone.

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Is peter a fish? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR0_pehWuiY

I know his avatar here, but agree that we need to step back and give the families space until there is some resolution (and hopefully the other two are safely off). I don't want the media taking the images or words from here, and there will be the right time to do what you mention. I don't think it is dumb idea, just a little early to do it. At least one of them is a part of our family here on CC.com, and we should be mindful of their family and friends and what they are going through.

try to contain your hate. you are what is wrong with america. merry xmas!

best wishes to you and your family scott.

to be clear, my posts above were the usual stupid stuff that is made on news sites these days (in this case the katu site) and not my own thoughts. i'm feeling pretty bad for all of the Gullberg family, and hoping the others make it off.

damn it. one didn't make it as per foxnews.

yeah hope they make it off ok. just having a flashback after reading those comments

Government tax dollars being spent to save me from my home being on fire is one thing. Most of us live in some sort of a home, be it a house, condo, apartment, etc. So it is equitable. Gov dollars pouring out, again, to "rescue" people from The Mountain is an abuse. Waivers should be required and signed saying "climb at your own risk." Period. And sensitivities aside, people talk about this now because it is occuring now. No one wished these people harm...I just do not want to pay for their "extreme" outing. Part of what makes it "cool and extreme" is the possibility of danger. Well, danger happened.

Here we go again. If people are stupid enough to climb Mt.Hood in the winter, they deserve to be lost.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/79135417.html

Stern is an asshat.

No, I was not a Batt-Boy, but that is some good training. Never know when you're going to have to fist jam in a combat situation.

Bachy Gestapo!

Great art and great story Sherri!

what is a definition?

what is cap and trade?

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Harden signed with the rangers

This could be the next "Hot Dog" of the skiing movie genre! It will even have Crispin Glover in it. I'm looking forward to see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Tub_Time_Machine

How about we call it "Grampa's Climbing Forum"? Then people can come learn how it was like to climb back in the good ole days? Back to one or two men's description of what climbing is? I've have said for a very long time that I think you guys represent a view point that others might share. But you don't seem acknowledge that just because you believe in something, that there is anyway anyone else might not share the same viewpoints? or the same spite? Do I need to warn you to the evils of megalomania? Have you taken the torch of climbing from someone more informed? Or are you placing the wrong emphasis what is really important? Offering an opinion on the history of and current state of bolting applications.... in a "rock climbing forum", in a thread linking an interview with a man who helped to promote this revolution.... is not spray. Virtually every response in opposition to my opinion consisted of insults, questioning of my climbing ability, speculation about my motives, charges of being afraid of new technology, character attacks, etc. Virtually the only attempt to discuss the appropriateness of rap bolting came in the form of an excuse that its impacts are less than some irrelevant road, ski resort, global warming report or whatever. That is spray. I think it is high time for some of you to admit that it isn't the message that you find annoying, nor its delivery. It is your own lack of ability to counter the message. OK. I considered your notion...but no, I still think it is the delivery.

Whatever dude! I don't see any pictures of breath fogging the air. It can't be real climbing at Squamish in December. Good for you Marc, keep charging hard. Thanks for the photos. Who took them?

guns and polling stations never mix

How about we call it "Grampa's Climbing Forum"? Then people can come learn how it was like to climb back in the good ole days? Back to one or two men's description of what climbing is? I've have said for a very long time that I think you guys represent a view point that others might share. But you don't seem acknowledge that just because you believe in something, that there is anyway anyone else might not share the same viewpoints? or the same spite? Do I need to warn you to the evils of megalomania? Have you taken the torch of climbing from someone more informed? Or are you placing the wrong emphasis what is really important?