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as always, thanks for your contribution Don. I have just found this whole topic moribund, i prefer to think of climbing as an activity of humans who are experiencing the heights of existence rather than risking death. keeping any and all alive is of course an important endeavor that this board can actually help with. I don't mean to silence the conversation. I have never seen Mt. Hood as a a "killer mountain". It has certainly claimed its victims, but for me it is strange that it has been the big magnet for discussion about the regulation of climbing risk. Perhaps it should not be so, but regardless it is. it was the first pnw volcano i climbed, and i'm sure it was for many others. If you think you can make the experience safer for others, have at it. I just would like people to also remember the positive side of ascending.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34468260/ns/business-personal_finance/ welcome to the free market

i'm cheating in that i exist in several generations.

well, has this cheerful conversation seen its end? also, mountains don't kill people.

i could make a pretty good mixtape of just "mountain" songs.

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I'm throwing down some stars for this one.

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He sounds a lot like Peter in that clip!

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oh and peter, you're a fuzzy man peach.

Well maybe date rape is just the way you have to run the country. Especially if you want to be on the hallowed ground of old Raygun.

Well I disagree. I don't think it is a question of his leadership. You cannot lead those that won't follow. FYI I think he has veered to the middle. why do you think liberals are all pissed at him? WHERE IS MY PUBLIC OPTION????? WHY MORE WAR??? etc... And disagree...that shit was just starting to flame up when he won the presidency, and the problems we have right now far predate his work as president.

nice little avie there in route!

Desert stoke! This is a great TR. Thanks for the slideshow at Sausagefest Joe!

this shot is unreal: awesome.

why did we diverge in the first place?

all the real players wear nike!

With Scott's permission I'm posting Luke's CC.com identity. With Scott's permission we'll also be moving his pictures from Photobucket to CC.com's gallery so that his TRs can live on here. Luke's TRs

that blue ice is beautiful. thanks john.

Why do you neglect the opium coming from Afghanistan? BTW huge quantities are probably domestic or from Canada. I've always heard the product from Mexico is inferior. I'm obviously not an expert though.

So. Hut on the summit and we are all fixed up? Seems to me the accidents are about statistics. Realistically, what sort of support lowers those statistics?

I'm my own grandpa.