Sphinx

Very sweet kid.

Go skinny, short. I use a 8.5mm 50m Mammut on glaciers. Don't go too skinny or short, though. Make sure it's dry. My $.02. Oh, and do a search, this has been discussed before.

I'm happy for her if she got over her spraying addiction, but I's still wondering what happened to her.

Because you got paid for it? (Joke, joke, it's ok now, don't get worked up.) Hey ScottP, you should go live in the next tree that AK is planning to cut down. You could be a martyr.

for like the 50 zillionth time, YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE'S TONES AND ATTITUDE FROM READING WHAT THEY WRITE ON THE FUCKING COMPUTER. How do you know what Bone's tone and attitude was unless you actually talked to him in person? ITs easy to be misconstrued - but you should know that. arent you frustrated? hard to tell from just reading your writing.

What for?

Climber yells down to belayer: "Hey John, is this anchor set up right?" Belayer to Climber: "I dunno. Why don't you come down and we'll ask our instructor". Climber rapped, and thankfully didn't die. This was a group of Mazamas, I think.

Bullshit. You don't learn much in groups. Get experience, read the books, practice crevasse rescue, etc, and do it. Stay away form the groups.

I think it's lame to never let Mr. Lambone live down his misfortune on Glacier. We all fuck up, and that was a while ago. BUT, Lambone, you were too vociferous, recognise and accept that fact, and let it die. I think everyone knows your opinion, no need to reiterate yourself over and over.

Must have been rough- sitting at your computer-waiting all weekend for everyone to get back from climbing- so you'd have some human interaction-huh!!?? Hah, I went skiing yesterday. What did you do? Did you ?

"The Wittle Crying Kitten "

Don't be throwing spin on this. I am not taking the high ground here and these two threads certainly aren't about me. You got a bunch of grief from others in this thread for speaking your mind. You then asked the question "why not?", and I tried to diplomatically say that the method used may have been a little heavy-handed and perhaps a more subtle approach could get the same message across without ruffling feathers. You took the high ground and turned this into a soap box rather than just giving her back her anchor and mentioning your concerns directly to her in private. Amen, bro.

"........." I'd provide a rebuttal, but it's not worth it. Bye bye, asshole.

Um, I don't know either of you, but I believe that your assertion, Mr. Lambert, is incorrect. Ehmmic went up to try a climb in the rain. As an emergency backup, she took a few pins. She got overcommitted, and pulled out her emergency gear: the pins. You , on the other hand, went to climb Glacier Peak, gambling on weather, and failed to bring emergency gear (ie rain gear). Like Ehmmic, you got into an overcommitted situation, but weren't prepared to retreat. She was. Yes, you didn't have too many options. But dying on Glacier Peak in a storm is no different from dying from a fall cragging. Dead is dead. Let me say it again: The correlation is that you were both in an emergency situation that would have been preventable. But she had the gear to save her own ass, while you didn't. Ironic, too, how now you say "get over it", which you failed to do while flaming Ehmmic. It's called being a hypocrite. God, you've got some issues. Go ahead and MODERATE if I hurt your feelings. Heh, too bad this is the Climbers' Board. Maybe you can BAN me. Too bad about your epic, now everyone has material to flame you. So get off the high horse, and try to be somewhat friendly once in a while.

I don't need to tell anyone about your 2 inches, it's pretty well-known from the content of your posts. Tool.

That's an easy thing to do. Do you climb much Lummox? He was on the cover of Rock and Ice......... Back on track: I have noticed that Lambone tends to think he's God. After all, he has climbed such noted routes as the North Face of Chair, Icy BC, and has even climbed in Yosemite!! PLUS he's a MODERATOR, so he must feel pretty important. Right about now, he'll come online, start spewing, and tell me to STFU, etc, etc, etc.

No need: Rescue TR

Except for what DPS is saying.

A pin per year will not do much damage. Here's to Ehmmic for getting down safely .