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They say it was a french AStar helicopter. I once watched a french AStar helicopter crash at Camp Muir.

I just found out that slide projectors are dinasours too, last week I called up to order some accessories for my slide projectors and was told kodak does not make them or parts either. Felt bad, almost as bad as when my dog died.

Save your $$$$ and take the alaska ferry, Malaspina, up to Skagway and back.

Stormy week on rainier continues... Bodies of two climbers spotted on Mount Rainier By The Associated Press E-mail article Print view Search Most e-mailed Most read RSS Mount Rainier National Park ASHFORD, Pierce County — A helicopter searching for two climbers overdue on Mount Rainier spotted two motionless bodies on the peak last evening, a Mount Rainier National Park ranger said. No more could be done in the darkness, supervisory ranger Mike Gauthier said, but search crews planned to set out at daybreak to try to reach the climbers. Tim Stark, 57, and his nephew Greg Stark, 27, both of Lakewood, Pierce County, had failed to return from a weekend trip to Camp Muir, at the 10,000-foot level of the 14,411-foot peak, Gauthier said. Relatives reported them missing yesterday. The men set out on their trip Saturday but a heavy snowstorm hit the camp over the weekend. Several other climbers were delayed in coming down the mountain but as yesterday progressed, and the Starks failed to return, "we of course became very concerned," Gauthier said. After the helicopter report, "it doesn't seem very optimistic at this point," he said. Gauthier said the men may have been disoriented by the storm. The bodies seen from the helicopter were at about the 8,000-foot level on the Paradise Glacier. There was no sign the men had fallen, but the ranger said, "it's very easy to get lost [there]. You just get blown off course." The bodies fit the description of the Starks. Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company

Does your dad know you are posting on cc.com?

Funny, I think that is exactly what she has.... Oops, did I miss the sarcasm? Yes, I think that they are enough. Would a full shank boot be more comfortable/warmer etc? Probably. Will these work? Yes, assuming you are using the right crampons. What kind of support is needed when wearing crampons? BTW-I don't carry big packs. Since she learned from me, she doesn't either. Rainier and Baker aren't exactly Denali. So this is the boot we are talking about?, Welll.... I have rescued climbers on Mt Rainier with frostbit feet, and they had much better leather boots that those. Under the best of conditions, you might make them work, but these should not be used on rainier or baker.

Just say no to mounted_mouse.

This is common advise given from most mountaineering stores. I have always had people from the boot departments, no matter what store, say that crampons can only be used on mountaineering boots (leather or plastic) and never on backpacking boots. Of course, as we all know, backpacking boots work well with crampons on easy/moderate glacier travel, where they are used only for traction, and front pointing is not needed. I wouldn't take offense from FF, probably just a liability issue they have to address.

Probably a mutated speciman of the Rattus genus, from high dioxin levels found in agent orange.

go go annabelle from Everest news: World records tumble as Annabelle Bond completes the Seven Summits! Guy Cotter today became the fourth Kiwi ever to reach the peak of the highest summits in all seven continents. Cotter summited along with Annabelle Bond to the top of the icy-cold 6194m Mt Denali. Bond, 36, becomes the youngest woman in the world to conquer all Seven Summits and she has achieved the feat the fastest out of any women. In doing so she raised funds for the Eve ovarian cancer charity appeal. The seven summits are Mt Everest (Asia), Carstensz Pyramid or Mt Kosciuscko (Australasian continent), Denali-Mt McKinley (North America) , Aconcagua (South America), Elbrus (Europe), Vinson Massif (Antarctica) and Kilimanjaro (Africa). "This has been a long climb, but quite satisfying,’’ Cotter said from the summit of Denali today. "We reached the summit soon after midday (NZtime) and it was very cold. But it feels most worthwhile after some long days holed up in heavy snow and icy conditions. "It has been really challenging as it’s so cold, so it’s definitely not a walk in the park. I always treated this one with as much respect as any other big mountain I’ve been on.” Others in the expedition party included Mark Sedon, a mountain guide and cameraman from Wanaka and Greg Benatar from South Africa. New Zealanders Rob Hall and Gary Ball completed the Seven Summits in a world record breaking seven months in 1990. The other New Zealander to complete the seven highest peaks on the seven continents is John Gluckman. Cotter took over Adventure Consultants high altitude expedition company in 1996 after Hall died near the summit of Everest nine years ago this month. Cotter has gone on to climb four 8000m peaks and has twice stood on top of Everest

mouse The protrusion into our dimension of a vastly hyperintelligent pandimensional being. The mice run the Earth, and it was they who paid for the Magratheans to build it. thats about right.

Monty Python: Your mother is a hampster, and your father smells of elderberry. Thanks for all the comments on the two routes. It clears up my questions., well all but one; is it ok to wear shorts over polypro?

Say Tex... I find your avatar, a mounted_mouse, offensive.

Looking at the route directions and map they look close, when they go above 9000', but I couldn't be sure.

Thanks dru dude. As I said, it was a long time ago and alseimers is setting in.

I climbed Baker many years ago, by the coleman glacier and the roman wall. Friends and I are planning it again ,but by the easten glacier. Is the route I took the coleman/deming route? and also, does the easton route end up right about the same place on the upper mountain, or is it an entirely different route??

I am thinking about running for governor sometime. Do you think my posting on cc.com will disqualify me if the media ever found out?

That explains alot, I guess I understand Idaho right wingers better now. Hee haw hee haw.

OK PP, that explains a lot. Your hardcore Republican buddy , mayor Jim West from Spokane, is an admitted gay, has been using city computer equipment to recruit gays to his office, has several allegations against him for supposedly abusing young boy scouts, has a criminal record for harrassment, and this is the type of man you admire. PP, you live in a dream world.

Liberal media? It amazes me how the media is called liberal. There has not been a liberal media since the 60's, and the only reason there was a liberal media then was because of an trend towards liberal ideas in the younger adults. Most of those liberal folks have left the ranks and are quite conservative. I remember the first earth day in 1970, and looked at it again yesterday. What a joke! This country has gone so far in the opposite direction of the goals of earth day that it boggles the mind. Who would have imagined all the SUVs and the humdinger of a hummer guzzling our gas? No, media is not liberal, it is after a sensational story, to sell advertizing. Some of the extreme right wing are offended when they get caught by the media, but the media is only after a good story. Anyone listen to talk radio and think it is liberal? Give me a break.

Shagadellic!

Hey stumpalot, Do you feel this????

Avalanche danger in Idaho is really huge right now. Of course this isnt Mt Rainier, it is Idaho. And everyone knows, Idaho is much better. Snowmobilers who out-ran avalanche rescue buried woman THE ASSOCIATED PRESS LEWISTON, Idaho -- A Clarkston, Wash., woman is recovering from multiple injuries after she was buried by a large snow slide near McCall before being rescued by fellow snowmobilers who managed to outrun the avalanche. Melvina Ross, a 46-year-old nurse, suffered a fractured spine and damaged lung after being buried Saturday beneath two riderless snowmobiles carried down the slope by a slide near Hidden Lake. "I just remember being under the snow screaming," she told The Lewiston Morning Tribune. "I knew I had one foot out. I could wiggle that one foot really good." Ross and her husband Tom were standing at the base of the hill 300 to 400 feet away watching other riders "high marking" - riding as far up the slope as possible before losing traction - when the avalanche started. Their son Brian spotted her foot protruding from the snow and the group began frantically digging to remove her from beneath the two overturned snowmobiles and hard-packed snow. Tom Ross dug to her helmet, brushed the snow from her face and pulled her out of the hole. "She didn't come around at first," said Tom Ross, an operating room nurse. "After maybe 15 seconds she started batting her eyes, looked around and its just like she woke up." The previous day, a Bellevue, Idaho, snowmobiler was killed in an avalanche about 20 miles northwest of Ketchum. Authorities identified the victim as Boe Balis, 28. The Sawtooth National Forest Avalanche Center has been reporting deep instability in the late winter snowpack since the end of March.

Hiked into the canyons, saw wildflowers, bighorn sheep, elk, and hiked into the cave where Chief Joseph was born. Saw evidence of snafflehounds.

Steens Mountain; that would explain the Twilight Zone foreground.