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I will guess it is the rock right off I-84 that is presently named after the barnyard animal it fails to resemble. I'll take "Semi-climbable volcanic pinnacles of Oregon" for 200, Alex. ________________________________________________________ Curt, we need to consult with the judges as the correct title of that category is "Barely tolerable choss piles of Oregon". Judges say that is the correct catagory and a correct answer as well. $200 sir, well done. Small humor in the fact that the State Park beach right there at the former COCK ROCK is favored by nude sunbathing male homosexuals (and other nudists as well). If only they'd known, they could have left the origonal name.

Beacon Rock? Buzzzzzz, no: Sorry. Lewis and Clark named Beacon Rock and the name stuck with everyone except the locals who were later evicted and killed in various ways for non-payment of rent after the rules changed without their say so or permission in @1854-1859 or so.

Hotmail generally sucks. So does mail.com. I have no personal knowledge of yahoo mail but it has to be better than Hotmail and mail.com. I'll take google matching my interests up to targeted ads so that I get out of the way invites to climbing related crap any day - instead of 2,000 "viagra" ads, 2,300 "make money at home" pop-ups, and 14,230 "enlarge your penis" ads spashed on the screen every 15 min. I have exactly 99 gmail invites I can give out. If anyone wants a free account just e-mail billcoe@gmail.com and I'll respond as soon as I see it with an invite and you can have gmail. Until I run out of invites anyway. It's first come first served so step up now. I'll only expect solid belays in return. When I started storage was an unheard of huge 1 gb, now currently, I heard that storage is at 3 gb, but google lists it at 2.5gb...........and it's still growing. ________________________________________________________ BTW, that penis enlarger thing doesn't work so don't bother, and don't think you can buy 3 and make it 3 times as big either cause it won't, sorry to say.

Yup, what John said. I was up skiing Wed. The previous day it ahd warmed and then froze. New snow was covering to @ 5 inches or so. I'd expect that even if the stuff that was hitting then were to have already cut loose, there would be signifigant build up just since then. I suppose that if it breaks loose and hits you head on - it will at least be light and fluffy. Ouch anyway.

COCK ROCK Named by the pioneers on the Oregon Trail who went right by this bulbous looking appendge/phallus shaped basalt pillar. Popular climbing destination for Portland people ------> anyone? anyone? Buller? Renamed in 1959, everyone knew it didn't look like a Rooster. anyone? anyone? Buller?

What do you do for a living?

Dirk Pitt already did this crap years and years ago. I read it.

Hope it goes well for your friend. I just read earlier on the BBC site of a death today (Name wasn't Johana). -here- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/world_rally/4595436.stm Aussie rider dies in Dakar Rally Andy Caldecott The Australian was an experienced rider Australian motorcyclist Andy Caldecott has been killed in a crash in the ninth stage of the Dakar Rally. The 41-year-old KTM rider, who won last Monday's third stage, was in 10th place overall after Saturday's eighth stage. Fellow KTM rider Marc Coma retains the overall lead in the bike class with a 22-minute advantage over Cyril Despres, who won Monday's stage. In the car category, defending champion Stephane Peterhansel of Mitsubishi won the stage to extend his lead. The Frenchman, who is chasing a third consecutive Dakar Rally win, now leads Mitsubishi team-mate Luc Alphand by nine minutes. But the day's action was overshadowed by the death of Caldecott, who crashed 250km into Monday's 599km stage between Nouakchott and Kiffa in Mauritania. He becomes the 23rd competitor to die in the Dakar Rally since the event started 28 years ago. "We learned at 1157GMT of the death of Andy Caldecott who fell after 250km," said race director Etienne Lavigne. "He probably died instantly. We learned of the accident at 1131 and the helicopter landed at 1155. His death was confirmed at 1157. His family have been informed." Last year two motorcyclists died - Spain's Juan Manuel Perez and Italy's Fabrizio Meoni. Caldecott, who was married with one child, won the Australia Safari four times from 2000 and 2003 and was competing in his third Dakar. He had retired from riding last year, having failed to raise sufficient funds but was given a surprise Dakar Rally chance by KTM just before Christmas, as replacement for Jordi Duran. Later in the stage, Spaniard Isidre Esteve Pujol withdrew from the event after falling twice during the stage. "Pujol is injured but he's not in danger," organisers said. According to Pujol's team manager Eric Bernard, the Spaniard - who was second in the overall standings before the day's racing started - was evacuated by helicopter to Nouakchott. Stage nine result 1. Stephane Peterhansel (France), Mitsubishi, 6hrs 52mins 45 secs 2. Luc Alphand (France) Mitsubishi 8:44 behind 3. Giniel de Villiers (South Africa) Volkswagen, 28:00 4. Jutta Kleinschmidt (Germany) Volkswagen, 49:58 5. Nani Roma, Spain, Mitsubishi, 52:39 Overall Standings 1. Stephane Peterhansel (France) Mitsubishi 34hrs 36mins 26 secs 2. Luc Alphand (France) Mitsubishi, 9:16 behind 3. Giniel de Villiers (South Africa) Volkswagen, 54:16 4. Nani Roma (Spain) Mitsubishi, 1:36:14 5. Jutta Kleinschmidt (Germany) Volkswagen, 1:56:24 Stage nine motorbike result 1. Cyril Despres (France) KTM 7hrs 55mins 48secs 2. Marc Coma (Spain) KTM 7:59.55 3. Helder Rodrigues (Portugal) Yamaha 8:02.48 4. Giovanni Sala (Italy) KTM 8:08.31 5. Pal Anders Ullevalseter (Norway) KTM 8:15.24 6. Jordi Viladoms (Spain) KTM 8:18.58 7. Carlo de Gavardo (Chile) KTM 8:23.21 8. Jean de Azevedo (Brazil) KTM 8:29.23 9. Chris Blais (United States) KTM 8:30.28 10. Paulo Goncalves (Portugal) Honda 8:32.18 Overall motorbike standings: 1. Marc Coma (Spain) KTM 38hrs 49mins 15secs 2. Cyril Despres (France) KTM 39:12.02 3. Giovanni Sala (Italy) KTM 39:42.19 4. Pal Anders Ullevalseter (Norway) KTM 40:16.57 5. Carlo de Gavardo (Chile) KTM 40:24.30 6. Chris Blais (United States) KTM 40:48.24

__________________________________________________ I like hanging around you and this exactly why! 2nd round is on me then! Looking forward to it. BTW Good job Doug, Wayne and everybody else working on this, the least the rest of us can do is show up with a few bucks for the stamps and the other misc. schizzel.

Siggghhhhhh....I'll give up Will and Grace just to see Wayne, John, Opdycke and a few others again.

Ammon or Tex? _______________________________________________________ BTW: pic of the failed cam: Note that the head has pulled OFF of the stem. Not good.

Thanks CC, I'm all over it ___________________ 1/12/06 I withdraw my thanks! __________________________________________________________ The stats are: doubles set of Hybrids arrived from Mgear in a vert timely fashion (Those guys are great). 8 ordered, 6 dimpled and need recall. Of existing rack older std Aliens of 11 total, 1 bad.

Dude, accept the critisims and repair issues as valid and examine if they need to be addressed (ie, blurry web page title -YES, pricing too high - most likely probably not) Go for it, live your dreams. You just stepped off the bus heading a new direction, keep plugging away and don't be discouraged. Live your dreams cause no one gets out of here alive and that life clock starts speeding up and ticking real fast all too soon - then it stops all together. Good luck -live your dreams: Bill PS, added to say: I made a road map of sorts when my kids were born. Best advise I could give anybody about anything is this: ORGANIZE AND EXECUTE AROUND WRITTEN PRIORITIES IE: write down where you really want to head and how you're going to do it based on whats important to YOU.

Moderates JH, not desperates! Short days could lead to a long ...long cold night unless you have your Peter Croft groove on. What do you mean for moderates anyway? I think of well protected 5.6-5.9 and in the winter time I'd want full sunshine. Moderates for some (not me!) might be 5.10-5.11. How about Olive Oil and Birdland (Brass wall). Both @ 1000' long, well protected multi-pitch trad 5.7's with sunshine on your funky ass almost all day. Check out the stuff on Brownstone wall too. Frogland, already mentioned, should get the morning sunshine. If you wanted to fight traffic, Cat in the Hat gets great sun and as a multistarred 5.6- crowds too. Edit to add- Chuck K has it down: Solar good - and the descent of Olive oil is shaded.

Is that Kitty chiropractic in action? Unreal.

Metolius is coming out with new light cams. You should see some other sales.

That would work. Bring pics!

Hey, isn't Layton a Chiropractor in training ? Hmmm, OK I've got it. maybe.

Club Milf? 1st) It's warm. 2nd) Eye candy galore. 3rd) Beer with a view. You can lay around on your back and watch people climb. ?

http://www.promountainsports.com/closeouts.shtml Some interesting things: like Acopa Rock Shoes $39.00 All Models!!

I suspect that although he has a masters degree and has been all over those tools last few years, John might not have known this My kids are trying to break me of the habit of repeating cautionary tales to them of things they already have heard 200 times. I'm proud to say I'm getting better at it. I already almost burned off one long time partner who was cruising a 2nd pitch crack directly above me by suggesting (3 times no less) "hmmmmm, good place for some pro?" Dude climbs higher..........."Uhhhhh, ya might want to put some pro in", I get ignored, but thinking he might not have heard say, dudes still climbing up: "Hey, little run out up there?" ,. He waited until we were down to give me the famous Frank Sacerrer line which is basically "shut the fuck up with all that talk about pro. You use to climb better than me but now you don't cause your fat and old. " Couldn't argue with that! I was too shocked to tell him that I was more concerned with my ass than his, fearful that I'd get slammed into like a bouldering mat if he fell off as I was stuck directly underneath him, hanging on my gear. Sighhhh, Good luck with it. BTW, I'm open to all advice still and since I need to climb up on the roof when it drys off I will take that message to heart. BTW, new thread when springtime comes? I'll try to add some stars here too. happy holidays to all

Sgt Schultz on the gas rotohammer John. (I know notzing!) If you want a big industrial cheap free one, it's yours for the taking still hanging on the side of Cerro Torre. 'Bout 4500-5000 feet of cold assed frozen granite-rime iced cutting biting winds though. Might be a little tweaked after hangin there for the last 35 years, but it's evidently still there -garbage waiting to be hauled off. Good luck.

Ed gets that a lot. _______________________________________________________ Gas on your rope?!! BAD DOG, NO BISCUIT! JMcay gives good advice. ...sadly. From the Beal site: "Advice on care . Before using the rope for the first time, wet the rope and let it dry slowly. In this way, it will shrink by about 5%. Take this into account when calculating required lengths. . Note that during use, a rope thickens, and loses (up to 5%) of its length. . The rope must not be put into contact with chemical agents, mainly acids, oils and petrol, which may destroy fibres without visible evidence. In the case of paints and cleaning agents, trials must be made before use on a case by case basis. . Avoid unnecessary exposure to UV rays. Store the rope in the shade, away from damp and direct heat. . If the rope is dirty wash it in clear cold water, adding, if necessary, some washing powder for delicate fabrics and using a synthetic fibre brush. . If the rope has been wet, either during use or during washing, let it dry in the shade, away from any source of heat. . After each use, inspect the rope manually and visually along its entire length. . A rope is a piece of equipment which can suffer serious and invisible damages when it is used when you are not there. . It is advisable to use a rope bag for transport, to protect it from dirt and minimise twisting." AND HELP KEEP BATTERY ACID AND PETROLIUM PRODUCTS FROM THE BACK OF YOUR TRUCK OFF OF IT Corvallis, I personally saw a rope fail under bodyweight on rappel @ 29 years ago with trajic results. The kid didn't weigh that much either. As hard as it is to say, and I use to use my gear till it looked like sh*t and was beyond run into the ground when I was poor, I'd let the rope go. You might search the internet for more info: heres athe Uiaa site: uiaa site

Sorry, I should have stated, head to a MD and get it fully checked out. BUT if and when they say (which is most of the itme), just take these muscle relaxors and pain meds, TOSS THAT SH*T IN THE GARBAGE AND RUN TO A CHIROPRACTOR. RUN I SAY! They don't fix everybody, that is correct. Those they do help, and they are legion, are die-hard converts for a reason.

E, don't cancel the trip just yet. Only speaking for myself (after learning the hard way) Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! Chiropractor ! CHIROPRACTOR ! Chiropractor ! And thank the Lord for Jewish Chiropractors who don't feel giving up a Christmas day to bail your tired cripple ass out is a big deal (been there done that) ! JT should be doable unless you broke something. Thanks to all Chiropractors in case I forgot to say something earlier! To Michael Blackmon now living in Israel! of all places, Thank you thank you thank you. In response to Blackmons question "What ya doing this weekend" I said, "not moving an inch" (grunted in pain not long after my wife had put my socks on for me, and driven me to that chiropractor over my ignorant objections. Michael says, "what would you say if I told you I thought I could get you out of here mostly pain free" (I am literally in agony worse than when I fell off a roof and had my orbital socket shatter ending with some bone sticking straight out of my face) I responded by saying "I will give you every thing I own and toss in a couple of children too if you need them". Damn if he didn't take most of the pain away that day. What did I learn ? Please re-read the above if it escapes you.