billcoe

Is this the start of the predicted 80 year global cooling? I call for a global cooling initiative.

Should have been out yesterday then. Saturday I shivered most of the day, I later decided that part of it was fear, and part was the cold. Snow level 5500 feet yesterday. I was at 3200 Sat. it was windy and semi damp.

You must have gotten hit hard by some of the short spots of heavy rain that swept through the gorge starting at 1pm or so? Good on ya for keeping with it! You must be building up some serious karma points or something.

Well done! I think it more likely that climbers need to guard against the let down and suicidal feelings which may occur after we come off an amazing climb and get back to the humdrum boring job. Lots of climbers have done themselves in over the years.

Scott: is that the b4 of this one? This would have been played up if Obamas pick had been different:

Well, the vps tend to get screwed. They usually (with a few exceptions) sit around and do very little once elected. So their main function and prime importance is to replace the President in the case that they die or are incapacitated. Now Obama, he's a strong young man. (Talking statistics here). If some jackass doesn't try and off him (I'm praying this never happens to any elected official), will live for many many years. Ask any actuary. True. Now McCain, the opposite is true. He's much closer to the legal limit where his lights will naturally turn off for ever. So as far as we, the voters are concerned, we can almost give Obama a pass on the VP pick, yet MUST take McCains very very seriously: as that person will much more likely become the president. When I glance at the picks, I know that Biden would be an excellent President. I can get into the why, however, it's very obvious he has the credentials and anyone who's paid attention knows this and has known it for years. Palin, on the other hand, does not. In fact, the only time I've heard of her was when she was charged with the fairly recent scandle of getting the relative tossed off the state police force. So to me, Obama has shown much better judgment in this arena than McCain. Perhaps I will learn about Palin and change my opinion. My question is this: is she ready to step in and become the president? Harry Truman was widely thought to be a small time operator and political hack, yet in many minds was a very good President. So I don't know. It does seem like poor judgment on McCains part to pick her. That was the best he could do? There is NO one more qualified than her Can anyone lay that down? Can anyone here explain why she was a good pick for the country.

Well I'M TRYING...., it can be a little hard to hear my wife of 28 years grab a patch of arm and after shaking around and examining it critically exclaim "What happened here? It's all soft, what happened to the Billy I married? " This morning she was saying "Honey, you're all wrinkly!" I told her it was just age and was starting to get into the full description of such when she interrupted to my relief and added: "I'm only talkin' about your shirt being all wrinkly."

Still 163

Last year was off the hook fun! Isn't this the "Second annual" comp John? Good on PRG to let it fly again, I know Gary only gets Karma Points for having everyone drytool the shit out of his holds. Ahh, but what points!

BTW, I thought that the way Obama handled himself in the primary was inspiring. He could have done negative attacks all day long to good effect but he said he wasn't going to do it, and he didn't go there. Far as that goes, I thought his response to the recent Swiftboat style attack (the Weatherman issue) was awesome and inspiring as well. I wish Kerry had spit it back in Bush's face like that. It's one thing to have a real issue (Bill Clinton's dalliances and Arkansas state trooper issues for instance) that get brought out, it's another to pull Willie Horton out of the playbook.

You agree with this one below too? Anyhow, I missed FW dissing that kind of verbage but I'm staying out of it. Seems to me that we all want whats best for our loved ones and our country, and that the disagreements folks tend to have, tend to be on how best to achieve that very thing. Which means we are all deserving of better from each other than letting the conversations slide so fast into name calling. I suspect if they were sitting around a campfire, this could be worked out fairly fast. I'd better just get out of spray.

Bob, I keep seeing some of these folks calling you a douchebag, so I don't think that you don't need to try and reinforce that image!

Joke: * A humorous anecdote or remark intended to provoke laughter * Something not said seriously, or not actually meant; something done in sport. ______________________________________________________ Anything else you need just ask. Now, how about a Hottie Muslim WOMAN for McCains cabinet, like Condolisa???? (Kevin, refer to upper statement for reference:-)

That's a pretty fuc*ed up thing to say Bob: rude as hell and a DAMN lie. FW has been consistent on his attitudes, he will not vote for a LIBERAL of any color, gender, race or creed. So he won't be voting for Hillary anytime soon either, but not because she wears a dress.

Let us refer to it as the speech of 32 thank yews. That is how many times I counted "Thank You" or Thank You very much" at the start of it. Man, global warming has hit Denver hard last few days. Lot of hot air. Next up, turning the land of 10,000 lakes in the land of 10,000 hot tubs.

and a pivotal moment in history. :tup: Can't deny that...but McCain will win the election. Don't think that's happening. I'm thinking that I'll be putting money, real money, on Obama. Don't necessarily think that's a good thing, but would like to make a buck on it anyway. Anyone who knows me can contact me for details if you want to bet on McCain. BTW, still collecting on my Hillary will lose bets.

Giuliani - 1 05% Hutchison - 2 10% Lieberman - 0 0% Pawlenty - 2 10% Romney - 9 45% Other - 6 30% I feel like a minority here. No one but one other person thinks the Minnisota dude is in there? Wuz his name, Huberto Humphreryo?

Don't know about that, but the same can be said of Rush Limbaugh. I saw him on the Oprah show, and he was NOT erudite OR intelligent sounding. I was left wondering how he can come off so smart on his show...yet fall flat like that when he steps off.

2 questions: 1st) I saw a postcard recently where you could check a box on what you thought were priorities, and what you did NOT want to see. You could check Gravel Quarry as something you wanted for instance, along with about 7 different activities on both sides, rockclimbing on both sides as well: things you could oppose or support. Is that current? For county residents only? What is up? 2nd) I wrote my support into the record for the last meeting. Should those of us who did that do it again if we can not be at the 24th meeting? Thanks Kellie!

OMG MY CUPHOLDER IZ BROKEN... GOT TO DO SOMPTIN DIFFERENT DERE....

I like competent, smart folks that are not drawn to power like moths to a flame. Powell fills the bill. Condi all but came out for Barak, so I expect she'll be out. Biden would be a great VP, and probably will be anyway...... So I'll go with that guy from Minnesota as the choice.

Never thought about it. I probably just need to do the route. Markd says Erik freed it at like 11d, that was after some 5.13 climbers had looked at it and chosen not to try and free it. I wonder if he might have worked out the moves on toprope first.

Have to disagree with that cute assessment:-) , however Bryan has some in the mail so I'll all set, but thank you Jen. BTW, Jason's picture of you and the area absofrikanloutly rocks on all counts. It even makes the area look better than I think I've ever seen it:-) Huge props to the shutter clicker.

sure! check your PMs.

must be innundated with hits eh?