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  1. Good job on getting it done Joseph.
  2. Uhhh, it has been working since ww2 Matt. Nice find Mel. I thought the artical was weak on specifics and was an attempt to show deep thought by being written as if for a university audience. As far as Obama being the "Commander and Chief", I too wish he had more experience as well doing ...anything. The choice of Biden was a good one which helped alleviate some of my concerns. Somewhat but not fully. Full text: "OPINION The Foreign Policy Difference By FOUAD AJAMI September 10, 2008; Page A15 The candidacy of Barack Obama seems to have lost some of its luster of late, and I suspect this has something to do with large questions many Americans still harbor about his view of the dangerous world around us. Those questions were not stilled by the choice of Joe Biden as his running mate. To be sure, the Delaware senator is a man of unfailing decency and deep legislative experience; and his foreign policy preferences are reflective of the liberal internationalist outlook that once prevailed in the Democratic Party. To his honor and good name, Sen. Biden took a leading role in pushing for the use of American military power in the Balkans when the Muslims of Bosnia were faced with grave dangers a dozen years ago. Patriotism does not embarrass this man in the way it does so many in the liberal elite. But as Bob Woodward is the latest to remind us, it is presidents, not their understudies, who shape the destiny of nations. So the Obama candidacy must be judged on its own merits, and it can be reckoned as the sharpest break yet with the national consensus over American foreign policy after World War II. This is not only a matter of Sen. Obama's own sensibility; the break with the consensus over American exceptionalism and America's claims and burdens abroad is the choice of the activists and elites of the Democratic Party who propelled Mr. Obama's rise. Though the staging in Denver was the obligatory attempt to present the Obama Democrats as men and women of the political center, the Illinois senator and his devotees are disaffected with American power. In their view, we can make our way in the world without the encumbrance of "hard" power. We would offer other nations apologies for the way we carried ourselves in the aftermath of 9/11, and the foreign world would be glad for a reprieve from the time of American certitude. The starkness of the choice now before the country is fully understood when compared to that other allegedly seminal election of 1960. But the legend of Camelot and of the New Frontier exaggerates the differences between Richard Nixon and John Kennedy. A bare difference of four years separated the two men (Nixon had been born in 1913, Kennedy in 1917). Both men had seen service in the Navy in World War II. Both were avowed Cold Warriors. After all, Kennedy had campaigned on the missile gap -- in other words the challenger had promised a tougher stance against the Soviet Union. (Never mind the irony: There was a missile gap; the U.S. had 2,000 missiles, the Soviet Union a mere 67.) The national consensus on America's role abroad, and on the great threats facing it, was firmly implanted. No great cultural gaps had opened in it, arugula was not on the menu, and the elites partook of the dominant culture of the land; the universities were then at one with the dominant national ethos. The "disuniting of America" was years away. American liberalism was still unabashedly tethered to American nationalism. We are at a great remove from that time and place. Globalization worked its way through the land, postmodernism took hold of the country's intellectual life. The belief in America's "differentness" began to give way, and American liberalism set itself free from the call of nationalism. American identity itself began to mutate. The celebrated political scientist Samuel Huntington, in "Who Are We?," a controversial book that took up this delicate question of American identity, put forth three big conceptions of America: national, imperial and cosmopolitan. In the first, America remains America. In the second, America remakes the world. In the third, the world remakes America. Back and forth, America oscillated between the nationalist and imperial callings. The standoff between these two ideas now yields to the strength and the claims of cosmopolitanism. It is out of this new conception of America that the Obama phenomenon emerges. The "aloofness" of Mr. Obama that has become part of the commentary about him is born of this cultural matrix. Mr. Obama did not misspeak when he described union households and poorer Americans as people clinging to their guns and religion; he was overheard sharing these thoughts with a like-minded audience in San Francisco. Nor was it an accident that, in a speech at Wesleyan University, he spoke of public service but excluded service in the military. The military does not figure prominently in his world and that of his peers. In his acceptance speech at the Democratic Party convention, as was the case on the campaign trail, he spoke of his maternal grandfather's service in Patton's army. But that experience had not been part of his own upbringing. When we elect a president, we elect a commander in chief. This remains an imperial republic with military obligations and a military calling. That is why Eisenhower overwhelmed Stevenson, Reagan's swagger swept Carter out of office, Bush senior defeated Dukakis, etc. The exception was Bill Clinton, with his twin victories over two veterans of World War II. We had taken a holiday from history -- but 9/11 awakened us to history's complications. Is it any wonder that Hillary Clinton feigned the posture of a muscular American warrior, and carried the working class with her? The warrior's garb sits uneasily on Barack Obama's shoulders: Mr. Obama seeks to reassure Americans that he and his supporters are heirs of Roosevelt and Kennedy; that he, too, could order soldiers to war, stand up to autocracies and rogue regimes. But the widespread skepticism about his ability to do so is warranted. The crowds in Berlin and Paris that took to him knew their man. He had once presented his willingness to negotiate with Iran as the mark of his diplomacy, the break with the Bush years and the Bush style. But he stepped back from that pledge, and in a blatant echo of President Bush's mantra on Iran, he was to say that "no options would be off the table" when dealing with Iran. The change came on a visit to Israel, the conversion transparent and not particularly convincing. Mr. Obama truly believes that he can offer the world beyond America's shores his biography, his sympathies with strangers. In the great debate over anti-Americanism and its sources, the two candidates couldn't be more different. Mr. Obama proceeds from the notion of American guilt: We called up the furies, he believes. Our war on terror and our war in Iraq triggered more animus. He proposes to repair for that, and offers himself (again, the biography) as a bridge to the world. Mr. McCain, well, he's not particularly articulate on this question. But he shares the widespread attitude of broad swaths of the country that are not consumed with worries about America's standing in foreign lands. Mr. McCain is not eager to be loved by foreigners. In November, the country will have a choice between a Republican candidate forged in the verities of the 1950s, and a Democratic rival who walks out of the 1990s. For Mr. McCain, the race seems a matter of duty and obligation. He is a man taking up this quest after a life of military and public service, the presidency as a capstone of a long career. Mr. McCain could speak with more nuance about the great issues upon us. When it comes to the Islamic world, for example, it's not enough merely to evoke the threat of radical Islamism as the pre-eminent security challenge of our time. But his approach and demeanor have proven their electoral appeal before. For Mr. Obama, the race is about the claims of modernism. There is "cool," and the confidence of the meritocracy in him. The Obama way is glib: It glides over the world without really taking it in. It has to it that fluency with political and economic matters that can be acquired in a hurry, an impatience with great moral and political complications. The lightning overseas trip, the quick briefing, and above all a breezy knowingness. Mr. Obama's way is the way of his peers among the liberal, professional elite. Once every four years, ordinary Americans go out and choose the standard-bearer of their nationalism. Liberalism has run away with elite culture. Nationalism may be out of fashion in Silicon Valley. But the state -- and its citadel, the presidency -- is an altogether different calling. Mr. Ajami is professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University. He is also an adjunct research fellow of the Hoover Institution."
  3. it's Un-bear-able I know.
  4. You're wrong. There are plenty of bears shot there, it's just that the authorities do it. I've seen this with my own eyes. They routinely kill bears in Yos. I've seen 2 that they killed and I know they do it all too frequently. Furthermore, as a backdrop, they spend lots of time, money and effort doing things so that they don't have to kill those bears.
  5. If I were you, I'd be reflecting on your stupidity on calling a dude who has treated you with more respect that you seem to prefer to give others, so poorly. You think that you are somehow immune from any reaction to calling a person a moron and a dumbshit? If so, reflect on your own intelligence for a moment. I would bet a phat bankroll you wouldn't say it to his face, so why act all agro online? Does putting another down make you feel so damn much better? Frankly, I agree with your earlier post about the guy who shot the bear, but you need to be aware and reflect on the idea that you are not anonymous, like you mistakenly seem to think. Start treating others with some modicum of respect. If you believe this to be the case and change your post to lighten up, I'll erase this one. Your call. BTW, that's a great Mt Lion story on the Onion.
  6. Everyone knows you're done drilling at Ozone silly. Link
  7. Boy that artical is right on the money, nice find Fairweather.
  8. Yup, can't stand the sight of an intact beer can either:-) Yeah, great pics as always Mark. Good looking rock.
  9. Hot off the presses to be announced tomorrow. Yup, the republican drug of choice, Oxycontin, addicted the elder Palin son for 2 long years, and the daughter evidently has a drug story as well as the sex thing coming out tomorrow. Did the Kennedys get reincarnated as Republicans? These guys have the sex, drugs and rock and roll pretty well covered:-)
  10. Ujahn, Ivan, Joseph Jim and Hanmi (white helmet) looking at the majestic and at this point in time yet unclimbed 30' Northern Passage Upper 5.4+ FA Bill Coe, Eric Lindthwaite, and Jim Opdycke I think I have pics at work, try to post pics later.
  11. Counterpoint view: Link
  12. I'm guessing that you sleep in a bedroom painted the deepest shade of black in the color pallet, your water glasses are never more than 1/2 full and the future is utterly depressing as you wait for the inevitable horror that is the future starts to appear around the corner. Keep the metal away from your temple dude, it's not that bad.
  13. Sh*t, I was thinking exactly this when I started reading your post. None of us - as in all of us, really know but a drop in the bucket about the universe: certainly not the how's, when's, what's or the why's if any.
  14. Did someone say 5.8? Link I got no respect anyway so that's not an issue. I called that one 5.7 and the next 3 people said 5.8, but there ya go. I don't find what you say about the 5.10 and up thing odd at all Klenke. I think this 5.10 and harder effect may only be cause the easier lines mostly already got poached in the 50s and 60's. Looking at say, either of Bryan's lines in the Sawtooths (Idaho forum), it's looks like some damn scary unprotected difficult squeeze sized chimney in that 1700' route, something most sane people avoid and do not even try to climb to to check out unless it's layed back or has rests or pro. That line probably had many people look at it throughout the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's and say, "let's go play and live for another day". Then some sick strong kid shows up who's been getting some solid mileage and finally just runs up it. As far as your easier rating point goes. Last month or so I had the joy to do a couple of routes with Bryan and he graded both at least 2 full grades lower than I thought they were. (This may be the effect of old age on me too) So if anyone is planning on repeated his 5.10 route, do not think for a moment that you will be doing a 5.8 that is just called a 5.10 to gain any respect on a web site, as that dude don't play like that. He called the 5.11 line we did a 10c, so if anything, I feel the reverse is most likely true. I bumped it up not just cause I found it difficult, and it may be harder than 5.11, but I know a relatively solid 5.10 climber had tried the line and finally just gave up and walked away, unable to even dog up it. I think both John and Bryan have not only given great info for anyone who wants to 2nd, but they'll gladly give more if you want it - just ask then or their partners. I love seeing the great pictures along with the reports too. Johns buttress shot he borrowed and posted was classic. Anyway, that's my thoughts, not that anyone gives a rats ass, but it beats talking about vice presidential candidates:-)
  15. I thought this was gonna be about John Bachar.
  16. It's been renamed the Global cooling issue.
  17. I think all rational people agree with this. I find it stunning that this debate and the balance the budget debate as well hasn't hit center stage in the US Presidential elections.
  18. Ya never seen anyone stunned into silence before E?
  19. No shit, both of you dudes had remarkable high mileage damned impressive FA weekends. I'm proud of you kids. Kevino, whats the story? Sweet looking route.
  20. Link "Old Farmers Almanac: Global cooling may be underway By David Tirrell-Wysocki, Associated Press Writer DUBLIN, N.H. — The Old Farmer's Almanac is going further out on a limb than usual this year, not only forecasting a cooler winter, but looking ahead decades to suggest we are in for global cooling, not warming. Based on the same time-honored, complex calculations it uses to predict weather, the Almanac hits the newsstands on Tuesday saying a study of solar activity and corresponding records on ocean temperatures and climate point to a cooler, not warmer, climate, for perhaps the next half century. "We at the Almanac are among those who believe that sunspot cycles and their effects on oceans correlate with climate changes," writes meteorologist and climatologist Joseph D'Aleo. "Studying these and other factor suggests that cold, not warm, climate may be our future." It remains to be seen, said Editor-in-Chief Jud Hale, whether the human impact on global temperatures will cancel out or override any cooling trend. "We say that if human beings were not contributing to global warming, it would become real cold in the next 50 years," Hale said." ....more
  21. "McCain's campaign rolled out a fresh televison ad that says Obama's only education accomplishment is "legislation to teach comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners." The ad raises the question "learning about sex before learning to read?" and calls Obama "wrong for your family." You don't even have to look it up on Snopes to know this is bullshit. I makes you wonder how to catagorize the Palin birth control method.
  22. That's bullshit, I just looked it up to see and not only was it spelled correctly but my picture was right there.
  23. Ditto. Sad to see a good person who is also a good climber check out. For many of us, this really means we are much closer to that edge than we think or believe. ... I'm planning on hanging it out a bit this weekend, if I don't start spraying Monday, it's not any consolation to my family that I bit off more than I could chew and checked out earlier than I should have. In my mind, it's still better than sitting at home getting old and fat watching the ball games on TV. We all go, most of us can't determine the when. My father died when I was 18 mo. old from Brain Cancer. Not a fast or happy experience for anyone concerned. I've been fortunate enough that I've already gotten 18 solid and great YEARS with my youngest. Wish I could have climbed with Ryan, sounds like a good fella, I don't wish this on anyone, and hope that Ryan's family can find some small peace or comfort in the joy he obvious got out of life. Such sadness should not be visited on those so young--- ever. Wishing the best for those who loved Ryan.
  24. billcoe

    LIBERALS

    I admit to being guilty of insulting these people on this very forum, although their condition might be better classified as social retardation. In either case, it's nice to see LESS, not MORE insults.
  25. I don't believe that's the case, I don't know that he's ever posted here, or on any climbing related BBS for that matter. Dru had said he posted as Trask. Trask was banned...ergo...
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