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Ahhhha! Now thats a very special special thing. Got ya.

Not slang for money Don, real cabbages like you eat. This is the field on top last year. Kyle has a great story of Broughtons which involves some young idiots who tossed some beer bottles off, nearly hitting them. The guy he was with ran up there (Silvermans following) and demanded 'who threw the bottle"? after the innocent kids pointed at the guilty one, he slammed him down on the ground and gave the angry lecture. Think he might have perp marched him down to clean it up too. but my memory is weak on that part.

Concur with STP re: states rights. If gays want this - why not? They should have the same right to be raped, screwed, shaved, cheated, manipulated and savaged by the divorce lawyers just like the Hetros have experienced for so many years. Next topic, prostitution and then polygamy. That's about it for me and don't start up with the "Consenting adults and animal" thing please.

When ya moving?

Same here. I never took a hiatus, but use to bump into old friends at climbing spots and they'd say "I heard you quit climbing" as it had been so long since they'd seen me. I never did. Kids were job #1 and so much more important than climbing in so many ways. "Organize and execute around written priorities" Rob. Good luck.

Sure, many have considered this idea. I think it's an admirable and interesting idea Checat. Certainly if you want this to be the "law of the land" at your new place, you have to work hard and get folks on board. Start with your friends and let the circle work outwards. Then you will eventually need to write it down as the circle gets further out. Maybe a name like "natural cliff" or "No-Bolts Cliff" will help you along as well. This is the preface to a route list I was asked to write. It was done more to avoid having people leave the gym a few years from now for their first or second outdoor experience and see a blank face and think "all it needs is some bolts". This area has some bolts, but they are not plentiful, and they are generally put in where it makes sense to put them. There is protection bolts here and there and there are some bolted rap anchors where trees are not accessible. It is hoped that when the next generation takes over that they respect the place and leave it as it is. The pitch on the route list is designed to get them thinking of this issue in advance. Says: "There are multiple top ropes throughout the area, some of which are described and some of which are not. Although this area should not have any “Do Nots”, please DO NOT think that just because there are no bolts stuck in a face, that by putting in bolts you are doing a first ascent and a new route. You are probably not. What you are most likely doing is sticking bolts into an area that intentionally did not have bolts slammed in it by earlier climbers. This may have been done on purpose, that is, intentionally left that way for a specific reason by those many climbers who were here first, often after extensive discussion amongst themselves about it. It may have intentionally been left as a toprope climb, on purpose. So the moral may be that if you plan on putting in bolts in opposition and disagreement to what all the previous climbers who have and continue to climb here, despite what they all thought and/or think, then plan on having your “new” bolts quickly removed and your alleged route erased. So if you think you see a new line or have a great idea for a route: check in with others who are invested in the area and then act. This is a different thing than acting first and then being upset later. when folks discover your perfidy. This might be a nice guideline to keep in mind anywhere you are climbing." I saw the Ozone fellas get their panties in a bunch when someone bolted a line close to an existing route, the recent bolt ladder that crossed Waynes route at Broughtons is another example: hopefully that kind of indignation and anger can be avoided here and at your place as well. Here's a couple of areas now that are diametrically opposed on the bolt issues. One has no bolts (yet), one is ONLY bolts (so far). On the left pic, thats a ground up FA, check out the ice axe! On the right hand pic, eventually someone will trip over a crack there I suppose. I say let the route, history and the rock dictate these things. Good luck with your dream and your vision!

Sure you could. What would you hope to achieve with no bolts? Learning to to do gear anchors and leads as a learning experience for gym climbers? Not condemning, just curious.

What's the question again?

clearly you didn't see the chix she set out w/ Nice riposte, touche!

For many this weekend, it was the best of times, and it was the worst of times. In a weekend that saw a young man and woman's untimely demise, it's worth it for all of us to take a moment to think of whats important to us. How can we optimize our all too short and fleeting ephemeral existence, and to revel in the strength and beauty of our youth? For this too will pass all too soon for us all dear reader. The late great Michael Reardon believed that a nude climbing club would be an interesting idea and he formed one. Frequently that great climber would just shed his inhibitions and let his freak flag fly. Naked pics abound of him free soloing up to 5.11. This tradition goes back to the earliest roots of east coast climbing with the Vulgarians setting standards in the 50's and the great climb of Shockley's Ceiling by Dick Williams buck-assed naked. This ascent has been repeated many times by others emulating an original. Young Adam knows none of this. Yet he follows in the path of the greats in the finest style as if it's his nature. The challenge tossed out by his buddy Jesse on the FA of the crack to the left led to the buttress being named "The Bare Buttress and the first route being named "Adam's Crack". In this case, the "Stone Nudes" calender was being discussed and Jesse said "How come no guys do the naked calender thing", Adam says "I would", Jesse replys "dude you're too chicken" "No Way" Adam responded and whoosh, off went the clothes, and up he went (January with snow still on the ground here and there and the wind blowing!)... and there it was. http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/865271/Opinons_needed_thread_NSFW#Post865271 The obvious lines on both sides of Adams Crack were named "The Left Cheek and of course "The Right Cheek." Here's some pictures of Adam on the FA of "The Right Cheek" this Saturday, which if you had to ask where this was, you would be told that "The Right Cheek" is located just to the Right of "Adams Crack", as you can clearly see. Old school bowline on a coil worked as a harness for a 5.10B all gear first ascent. Regards to all, live life to the fullest, you only have one go round.

That's sad. Of course this was Bush's fault.

Oh!? Will Sarah Palin be in this one too? Cause I'd watch that one.

John, because there were half a million Mazamas or because of the 2 folks who died? ps, the triple bag de jour is ski till the snow warms, climb AT PETE'S for 2-4 hours, then hike to the top of Beacon and back fast so that your thighs are burning:-) Horsethief is reserved for when it's cold or wet up high.

Dohhh! Thanks Clint!

Any info? Mazamas basic climbing class was out there today....anyone know anything? Sorry for this piss poor excuse for a news article. Typical. http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/two_rock_climbers_die_at_popul.html "by Su-jin Yim, The Oregonian Sunday April 05, 2009, 6:48 PM Two rock climbers died Sunday at Horsethief Butte in Klickitat County. Washington State Parks spokeswoman Virginia Painter confirmed the deaths, but could not release any details about the accident or victims. The park on the Washington side of the Columbia River Gorge is a popular destination for climbers. Several dozen people were there at the time of the accident, Painter said." Not Mazamas as it turned out. Man that sucks.

I hadn't read it, but from the earlier press releases, it sounded to me like the wife still hadn't come to grips with it and was writing the book to sort it all out. Hope the family's can finally find some peace, and if it's through God: why not? Late start? What time is it? OMG! CYA

Strange golden object? Hmmmmm, yellow orbs....mmmmmmm

That wasn't so hard now ...was it. This keeps up people are gonna start thinking you're a normal person. I promise to stop baiting you with gun pics......since Don left I can't bait anyone with the lil Dawg pics. Unless someone objects, cause I'll post some more if it's needed.

Speaking only for myself, I'm not playing. Someone attacks me personally I take it personally. Deadly serious shit. That thread you folks deleted between T and me, it wasn't joking or play on my end. That's just for me, can't say for everyone else.

damn...from your title, "Serious Sh*t", I was thinking this: or this or this Instead its a baseball thread. I'd rather look at the shit.

Hi son Jody occasionally posts over on Supertopo and if you title a thread the same he'll touch base I'm sure.

OMG, was it good for you? LOL. Your avatar should be Hugh Jardon:-) Here's some more gun porn for ya next time.

LOL, I had that pic as well but didn't want to say anything.

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