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States rights revival. My brother just got back from Memphis. He says the liqueur stores are segregated! Blacks buy out of one and whites out of another and apparently only ignorant tourists like himself accidentally cross over. This led to a rousing debate over race and racism over the family diner. I heard a fact that surprised me. Despite Brown VS Board of education, fully 70% of the schools were still segregated in the South as of 1969 (when I was in High School).

You missed digging in the dirt for this? Wise man.

I don't disagree with what you say Matt: but by totally ignoring what Prole has said you defacto agree with it. The title of the thread is "Criminal Irresponsibility" and he says that because a Governer, who has a fiscal duty to his state, didn't want to not look at the costs of a federal program, that he should be taken out and Tarred and Feathered by a mob??!. Specifically, the article says the governor: "expressed concern that expanding unemployment insurance coverage would lead to increased unemployment insurance taxes later on. “The federal money in this bill will run out in less than three years for this benefit and our businesses would then be stuck paying the bill,” Jindal said. “We must be careful and thoughtful as we examine all the strings attached to the funding in this package. We cannot grow government in an unsustainable way.” " I mean WTF? You think that is "Criminal Irresponsibility" and an elected official should be tarred and feathered? It's bullshit. If you want to now say "well they should have tarred and feathered some of the corporate owned political whores in the last admin", I wouldn't even try to defend some of those shit actions, but why ignore a post like Proles? As far as if I believe or "think much of the Republican grandstanding over this aspect of stimulus package is a cloak for we-hate-socialism Republicanism? " Probably is. That's politics as usual. Not everyone agrees with everything and when they argue it out, they usually get to a better result. In Oregon, our last Governor, a Dem-not that it makes a difference, Kitzhaber, was formerly an emergency room physician. He refused and protested going along with the federal government mandates on spending the way they dictated for health care. The feds almost cut us off of Federal Funds because we were going a different path. There was the usual lobbying and back and forth. So Oregon does health care with federal dollars different, and many would say better and more effectively, than yours and every other state. It's called the Oregon health Plan. The Gov. was looking out for the state and via lots of peoples input, you get "the Oregon Experiment". I know someone who rolled down a cliff and the near $50,000 bill was funded via this experiment, which doesn't spend a dime more than your state per person (they say). Yet they won't pay for high risk/high expense transplants. Is that wrong? As far as what this one said when he "expressed concern that expanding unemployment insurance coverage would lead to increased unemployment insurance taxes later on." “The federal money in this bill will run out in less than three years for this benefit and our businesses would then be stuck paying the bill,” Jindal said. “We must be careful and thoughtful as we examine all the strings attached to the funding in this package. We cannot grow government in an unsustainable way.” "Jindal is one of a small group of Republican governors, which includes South Carolina’s Mark Sanford and Mississippi’s Haley Barbour, who have said they might refuse some or all of the stimulus money targeted to their states. In an interview Friday, Barbour said he, too, would likely decline funds for broadening access to unemployment insurance. “Subject to learning more, my position is that Mississippi won’t accept funds that require us to have a tax increase later, because [they would force] us to change our rules for qualifying for unemployment compensation,” he said." This is "Criminal Irresponsibility" and these other officials should be tarred and feathered for not wanting to increase your tax bill later? PLEASSSEEE! Give me a break. You want to tar and feather someone, go hit the Illinois Governor who was selling favors to line his pocket.

I suspect that Prole thinks there is never a bill that is due as long as the government is giving money away. That money just is created from thin air, I suspect he believes, and has no basis in reality. Full story: "Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal announced Friday that he will decline stimulus money specifically targeted at expanding state unemployment insurance coverage, becoming the first state executive to officially refuse any part of the federal government’s payout to states. In a statement, Jindal, who is slated to give the Republican response to President Barack Obama’s message to Congress on Tuesday, expressed concern that expanding unemployment insurance coverage would lead to increased unemployment insurance taxes later on. “The federal money in this bill will run out in less than three years for this benefit and our businesses would then be stuck paying the bill,” Jindal said. “We must be careful and thoughtful as we examine all the strings attached to the funding in this package. We cannot grow government in an unsustainable way.” Jindal is one of a small group of Republican governors, which includes South Carolina’s Mark Sanford and Mississippi’s Haley Barbour, who have said they might refuse some or all of the stimulus money targeted to their states. In an interview Friday, Barbour said he, too, would likely decline funds for broadening access to unemployment insurance. “Subject to learning more, my position is that Mississippi won’t accept funds that require us to have a tax increase later, because [they would force] us to change our rules for qualifying for unemployment compensation,” he said. It is not clear which, if any, other parts of the stimulus funding Republican governors will decline. But initial suggestions that anti-stimulus governors might decline all the funds targeted for their states have faded. Joel Sawyer, Sanford’s communications director, said the South Carolina governor was still reviewing his options with respect to the stimulus. “We haven’t made any decisions on any part of the stimulus yet,” Sawyer said."

Of course not Mr Pink, only PUSSIES pre-place draws....wait...wuz zat yeller thing up dere? ......hmmmm.... Shirley knot..say it ain't so!??!!!!!!!!! take care dudes:-)

One of you was suppose to bring up that "looks like a Rat Turd in the sugar bowl" comment that gets used for everything under the sun and then we could have had 20 more pages charging racism with people calling each other names like any other normal internet site.... This is sadly just going to quietly head to a back page though....so much opportunity just wasted....

Thanks Malcolm, I pulled those numbers directly off the story. I should know better than to trust the internet. I suspect that everyone who has copied the pic has added a few feet to the potential length!

Ha ha!, Have you seen some of the sizes of the Pythons in the Everglades? They should never have let those, and a bunch of other "pet" species into this country. Here's one that exploded trying to swallow an Alligator. Expect snakes up to 30 feet long eventually although 10-13 is the range now, and if it warms up a tad more, ranging up the eastern seaboard to New Jersey perhaps. A new entrant to the top of the food chain in Florida...like the birds nesting in the sawgrass needed this.

Not a word has been heard after all these years.... I was thinking of this because of this: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/868346#Post868346

If the alleged victim had laid still for a few moments, he may have drifted into unconsciousness and froze solid in the snow. If the kids hadn't have come along, he'd be dead now. This ring any bells? http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/446479/site_id/1#import

Yes, as I get out into far out parts of Skamania county all the time I think and might have been a bit wired there. I meant to say "The alleged perps"....and "the alleged assholes" or something to that effect...thanks for the heads up and the reminder, you are of course correct. Of course, the father and chief role model there appears to be an actual sex offender, as he didn't register for it...so I guess we should actually be saying "The actual asshole convicted sex offender and his alleged son are wanted..." or perhaps something like that ? I'm unsure here. I wouldn't know how to integrate this info either "In January 2001, Michael Collins was arrested after he allegedly led police on an 80 mph vehicle chase, nearly hitting two vehicles, and crashed near Crestline Elementary School, according to The Columbian's files." Thank God the alleged asshole didn't kill any little kids that time. They may be neighbors of Kevbone. Bone? Keep an eye out for this vehicle as well: A black 1998 Ford Explorer Washington license 455YHY, apparently the alleged murderous scum just up and decided to kill him when they stole his car ..he was co-operating, maybe so that he wouldn't talk.

2 people have been detained as material witness's and police are looking for these 2. The news story says: "The Skamania County sheriff's office issued warrants for Michael David Collins and his son Teven David Collins, both Vancouver residents, as suspects in the case. They are believed to be somewhere in the southwestern United States. Skamania County officials are working with federal and state authorities to track them down. " Pictures to help you on that question Wayne, these are the wanted men pussy assholes: Michael David Collins and his son Teven David Collins They beat this poor bastard for no reason until they thought he was dead then they tossed the body into the bushes and left. The end of the news story says "Michael Collins is also wanted for failing to register as a sex offender. " Assuming a court of law determines the fasts are as they appear. Who would argue against the death penalty here? Because if they feel that way, maybe they can keep this violent sex offender in their house and try to personally rehabilitate the asswipe as they system is doing so badly on these kinds of things.

I can't imagine anyone giving the hate. Some dudes obviously stepped on their dicks and you are helping them everyone out. Frankly given the vitriol on this site if nothing else, I'm surprised they lasted that long....., I can think of a couple of much better places for a bolt route. There is an old one at da Butte from the late 50's which could be regenerated if nothing else. BTW, the Cabbage patch you mention has been there since I first went up there in 1967. I was up there last year and the guy is still growing great looking produce. You can drive right up to it on top as it turns out all those farms have roads right up to them.

I've never tried to print out one of those. I browse at my desk essentially.

Good names! I just stumbled on a pic of the late great Michael Reardon and had nearly forgotten his creed that every climber should solo naked on occasion. And on airy interlude below. I think he actually had a "Naked Soloing Club" going and they'd regularly get out for naked climbs. They were climbing in some fairly public places too. Hard to imagine a sneaker wave was what killed him.

The best one I've found for sussing out my secret spots at my desk instead of working is this one: http://mapper.acme.com/

We should post some climbing pics. We get to The Far Side early Saturday morning and make it down to the ledge on the route we are calling The Drop Zone. Jim Opdycke took some pictures as Scott Peterson and I grabbed gear and organized. Scott did the work while I slacked off...I was thinking that a lawn chair would have been more appropriate, but I can stand around and look silly in the cold as much as the next fella, it's even easier as every joint and my head hurts from a massive head cold. We all decide that we can trust Scotts anchors and rap off. We head to the other end of the cliff band to look at a wide crack I'd been lusting after. We decide to do it and as it's the first ascent I get to name it so I go with "Dulcinea". (sexy, seductive, but a wide crack still) I still had the massive head cold I'd had an hour earlier, and was dead tired, but my buds let me have at it ground up. Sometimes it nice to see what kind of reserves you can draw on. Ujahn Belayed, Jim Opdycke and Scott Peterson took a run up as well. Short but fun we all agreed. Little run out to start. Unless you showed up with a 12" piece which I didn't have. The only notable thing: Ujahn was tossing some blocks off when he followed it. You can see a few of the very ones right above my head on the last picture. One of the larger ones got away from him and landed on the rope he thought he'd coiled up off to the side and whacked it. Fortunately it was his old one! As we're later huddled behind a tarp Jim had set as a windbreak as Scott led Happy Crake (pronounced Crack) in the cold and damp, we thought of our friends the Silverman Brothers and Adam who had wisely bailed on this cold bullshit to go climb in Zion. Bastards Nothing says full value weekend like some 100 yard range time to finish off the next day.

That's your contribution de jour? Dude....

Good links JB. Fairweather, if you haven't read it yet, I thought that this was one of the most awesome reads of the last 2 years. Great stuff which was deeply and thoroughly researched: and gives us a window on the world to this day.

Nice link STP, very long and worthwhile reading. If you lived in the burbs, it should be a wake up call to sell immediately and move inner city to a larger/funkier place with an eye on vacant land and mass transportation nearby. 2 parts I specially liked.

I was musing on the low inflation rate the other day. Classic econ says that massive government spending vs income accompanied by massive cash infusions into any economy will result in massive inflation. This should be upon us by now, yet it has not occurred (yet). It appears that what is happening is not only are they borrowing by issuing treasuries at record paces, but they are also buying those very T-bills back at a record pace. So the result is that less money gets in circulation. I don't understand the effects that utilizing this slight of hand trick will get us....as it appears very intentional. This appears to be having the result of deflating the dollar. Perhaps others can weigh in here on that. STP has been posting a bunch of kick assed web-sites, does anyone else check that stuff out? One site he linked suggested keeping cash on hand can be the best thing to do right now as the dollar deflates. Inflation, on the other hand, will make everything which you had stuffed under your mattress disappear faster than a KKK member at a NAACP meeting. I think that one personal hedge against this, no matter which way it goes is a bank account that is accounted in Chinese Yuan. I'm trying to resist it but am considering getting into some Wheat Futures thinking that the weather/dollar combo may help that transaction this year. What are everyone else's thoughts on this? What personal moves are you making?

Per what Mr Head speaks of on top: it was good to see Barak publicly come out against the fairness doctrine just today. Rep Henry Waxman had been pressuring the FCC to implement it. I feel that this is one of those stupid, possibly an anti-constitutional idea which many Democrats strangely love.

We should lynch the bastard. I KNEW I didn't like him, but now I'm convinced! The nice thing about moving to China is that you don't have to worry about any of that bullshit. No payroll taxes, no FICA, No FUCA, Social Security, minimal environmental laws, no OSHA, no lawsuits cause someone spilled the coffee in their crotch again...and the people will work for eggrolls and twice chewed dogmeat and NOT money! Now how come this country is loosing 3/4 of a million manufacturing jobs a year again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/4681736/Geography-professor-claims-to-have-found-Osama-bin-Laden.html

Dude, you got some learnin' to do: Pink RULES!!!!!