billcoe

Still looks better than where I was. My wife said "Why don't you take the lil Dawg out? So I did. This is the only picture as it was raining most of the day. She was unimpressed. I think she might have been referencing the Trailer Park Floozy here: this

I was wondering what you folks got on. Nice. Is that you at Trout?

If that mattered at all then the inverted hedge clippers that represented the last 2 years of the Bush admin would have caused him to have quit:-)

Oh man, that's terrible.

Here's the clock you'd best avoid looking at. http://www.uwsa.com/us-national-debt.html National debt clock.

Hey Pink, have you been keeping your eye on the clock again? http://obamaclock.org/

Whats up with 5 non-posts all titled such?

One of the problems in discussing an issue such as this on this forum, is that the style lends itself more to sound bites and partial explanations. This is a complex issue not easily resolved or explained this way. So folks anger rises, however: I suspect if you all sat down around a campfire and talked this over, something close to agreement would form, or lacking such, certainly clarity on others views and emotions over this issue. I said my piece, and although it was a lengthy diatribe, it wasn't even the half of it. Regards to all bill PS, Scott, I've been thinking about your comment about having sworn an oath to uphold and protect the constitution. I think that having done that myself, it has influenced how I think on many subjects. I suspect that one of the largest issues not dealt with in schools these days is the lack of discussing how our country was formed, and the sacrifices those early gentlemen took or the break in values their core beliefs really were at the time. It seems to be an acceptable cliche on the left hand side of the isle to diss and slam them for slavery and greed, but not acknowledge the real and true risks they took in the belief that they were making a better brighter future for all mankind. My kids were deeply and intimately schooled on and about Martin Luther King and the Civil rights movement yet had not even heard of George Washington. Really. This is perhaps a failing which is a bad thing for all of us as a country, and we end up with each of us eventually having self-centered viewpoints and truths, and unable to see others viewpoints and truths via a shared deeply held value system.

Did you meet Adam and Kyle? They were there as well. Wuzzamatter- you folks melt when it rains or what?

Real good pics there Saragrace, thanks!!!! One can never have enough quality climbing pics.

I've been cleared. Really.

LOL!, they'd shoot it down for sure. Your point brings this list to mind. (#4 esp) Lifted from a Russian Jew. Link if you want the Russian or German version says... There are 10 reasons why I’m on the Israeli’s side in the Arabian – Israeli conflict. 1. In a conflict between drinkers and abstainers I take the side of the drinkers. 2. I’d prefer the regimes where the leader can be put in jail, as opposed to those where the leader can be only assassinated. 3. I’m taking the side of the people, who love jokes about themselves; I rank them above those, who are ready to kill in response to a joke or caricature. 4. I prefer women in military uniform to those in black bags. 5. I don’t want people who are waken up every morning to muezzin’s howling to triumph over those who know how to use alarm clock. 6. I have more sympathy to those, who when learned about their daughter’s adultery clasp their heart, not a knife. 7. I feel like a more rightful thing to pay a lot of money to part with wife, not to buy a wife. 8. No doubt, I better understand those who bury their killed children, not those who display their bodies all over TV. 9. I have more respect to the society exchanging several hundreds of enemies for one captive than those who disrespect themselves by willing to trade one thousand of their comrades for one enemy. 10. I want to live in the world where women and children are not getting killed. But when it still happens, let the law kick somebody’s asses, not let the jubilant crowd to dispense candy on the streets. ___________________________________________________________ speaking of pron, here's some rock pron from Saturday. Kyle leading the ground up FA Wet and Dirty at the Arena of Pleasure. Adam doing the GFA of 30 (6) feet of Pleasure at the Far Side. "Where a shovel on the rack is mandatory for the leader doing a ground up FA"

I suspect we could get rich pimping out Porters Avatar. Is there a guy alive that wouldn't ditch the shop vac for a $5 toss with that or what?

[font:Arial Black]LOL Matt - ZIIINNNNNGGGGGG! [/font] Probably need to work on upgrading the liqueur cabinet first. Another couple of years and she'll be old enough to drink.

its yours ...$85.00

Should be encouraged more.....I think I can almost see fur there. Israeli Bar Refaeli on the cover of the recent Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. link If you needed it, this is clearly one more reason to support Israel.

Acknowledging your forsight Ivan: The Shite looks about to hit the fan on this subject. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090313/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

How about a route name "The Rumbling". the Bumbling? The Fumbling?

" The U.S. Constitution recognizes the fundamental right of the people to keep and bear arms. That right is even more important to Europeans, whose countries suffered from tyranny and genocide in ways unknown to Americans. A hypothetical postulation by Alexander Solzhenitsyn illustrates the best reasons for civilian arms ownership in this footnote to The GULAG Archipelago:(Russian Text not transferred here - translation) And how we burned in the camps later, wondering: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive, and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during the periods of sweeps, as for example in Leningrad, when they imprisoned a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their burrows, swooning with terror at every slam of the front door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up ambush in the hallway, of several people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were up to no good going out at night—and you would do no wrong cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out in the street with one lonely chauffeur—what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of manpower and transport and, despite all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If only… if only… We didn’t love freedom enough. And above all—we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit, submitting with pleasure! […] We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterwards. In our country, Judge Alex Kozinski, a Jewish refugee from Eastern Europe, epitomized this argument in his dissent in Silveira v. Lockyer: The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once." From http://larvatus.livejournal.com/

No I didn't know that factoid, but I believe it- those empty cars parked on the bridge are a give away. So are you suggesting that we weekly have millionaire crazy Nazis trying to fire off a dirty bomb into a large crowd to effect mass murder and try to take out the president? Shit! Who knew?

Hard to evaluate the truth if this alledged rich Obama Hating Nazi lowlife was going to go all Timothy McVey, but it looks like it from here right now. Might be the biggest story in the world and the mainstream press is passing on it. LINK WTF? "March 8, 2009 The curious tale of an Obama hating, cashed up, nuclear Timothy McVeigh from Maine. Contents By Julian Assange (investigations editor) It has all the makings of a great story. But outside of the US state of Maine and select counter-terrorism circles, you won't have heard about it. For this is a story with all the right ingredients but one wrong ingredient. On the right side is a leaked FBI intelligence report, Obama's inauguration, a multi-million dollar trust fund, a woman, uranium, thorium, the first attempt to build a "dirty bomb" on US soil, and, of course, murder. On the wrong is the body of James G. Cummings, white supremacist millionaire, found in his Belfast home on December 9, 2008, shot to death. After local police attended the scene, the FBI moved in and sealed off the building. Men in protective suits descended on the home but police refused to comment about what they found. Mrs. Cummings was taken into custody. Then on January 12, 2009, Wikileaks revealed a confidential FBI field intelligence report on the incident as part of a Presidential inauguration threat analysis.[1] According to the FBI report, Cummings had four lots of one gallon containers of bomb-grade hydrogen peroxide, uranium, thorium (also radioactive), lithium metal, thermite, aluminum powder, beryllium (radiation booster), boron, black iron oxide and magnesium ribbon. While the radiation levels from Cummings initial device would have not have been physically significant compared to its explosive and toxic effects, had Cummings set off the device in Washington DC, during Obama's Presidential inauguration, its psychogenic effect may have hospitalized thousands. The FBI states it also seized literature on how to build “dirty bombs” and information about cesium-137, strontium-90 and cobalt-60 and other radioactive materials. There was also evidence linking Cummings to white supremacist groups, including Cummings' membership application to the US National Socialist (Nazi) party. Local tradesmen who worked at the Cummings home told Maine reporters that Cummings was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler and had a collection of Nazi memorabilia around the house, including a prominently displayed flag with a swastika. Cummings claimed to have pieces of Hitler’s personal silverware and place settings.[2] Though the Associated Press independently confirmed the Wikileaks FBI report, no-one outside of the Maine press (and Wikileaks) wanted to tell their readers about the first credible "dirty bomb" plot on US soil. Why hasn't the story been picked up by the national press? Perhaps the media has simply tired of "dirty bombs"? Not at all! There have been at least 1,264 media references to "dirty bomb" in the past month. A mere 23, or 1.8%, relate to the Cummings case--despite it being the only real plot among them.[3] Of the 23 Cummings references 21 are local Maine media and two are from security industry magazines. The same time period saw 409 blog references, Some 76, or 19%, relate to the Cummings case--ten times the ratio of organized media.[4] However, 78 out of 79 bloggers simply copied text from Maine's paper of record, the Bangor Daily News (BDN) which followed up the Wikileaks document with a strong traditional press investigation. The 79th also wondered about the media silence outside of Maine. Conservatives apparently didn't want to draw attention to a radioactive, wealthy version of Timothy McVeigh coming from their own sphere, although nearly every day during Bush's reign saw "dirty bombs" hyped as the ultimate threat. The left didn't want to repeat another "dirty bomb" story, the likes of which Republicans had used to drive hundreds of billions of dollars into Republican dominated military and security contractors. Those same contractors normally would have comprised a lobby to get the story out--and counter-terrorism dollars in--but their message lines were finely honed to hype threats posed by militant Islam and radical anti-capitalist greens. Libertarians all over had conditioned themselves to oppose reportage that might lead to reactionary state controls. The FBI wasn't talking and the Maine government tried to play incident down, under the rubric that they had protected Maine citizens at all times, despite apparently having had no conception of the Cummings plot. Journalists of various hues at influential east coast outlets could have pushed the story had there been enough prestige incentive to overcome other allegiances, but because Wikileaks and BDN were "first" there was no such incentive. If there were journalism awards to be had, they'd be going to Maine journalists and Wikileaks. And there you have it. The first "dirty bomb" plot on US soil, cut short only by a Shakespearean murder. But until now, you probably never heard about it, because only a few had incentives to tell you. But the Belfast dirty bomber is just one drop from an ocean of truth that is unreported, not repeated, and does not enter into civil discourse, because it is not perceived to be profitable to talk about, regardless of how profitable it may be to hear. Yet it is from these shared perceptions that we form the structure of civilization itself. Every government, every law, every regulation and every constitution is its product. Hence the quality of civilization is predicated on the degree to which civil discourse is a fair representation of the world we live in. That is why the revelation of primary source knowledge, from which everything else follows, is so important. Its limits are the limits of civilization itself. " http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/james-g-cummings-slain-us_n_173640.html

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/isslivestream.asx When they are sleeping, they say that the camera will be pointed towards the Earth and feeding live.

Well, it's true we may be cluelessly living on the edge of an icefield, but this ice flow sure seems pretty crowded as it drifts out to sea. Maybe because its the Pacific NW, home of the Other White Meat? Those solid, salt of the earth folks in the plains states will start crowding in later like they always do as more time goes on and they think it over. Locking innocent people up for life imprisonment with no trial or hope of release until some faceless and nameless authority figure decides to let you go isn't in the American Makeup. Sure, we all know that there's more guilty than not in there, but it doesn't change the fact. In my mind, it's better to dismantle this symbol of abuse sooner, so that the real shitbags in there can get dealt with before emotions deal a different hand.

LOL! Actually, your point is well taken Ivan. 3 years in jail seems excessive for sure. That's a long time to rot in a prison cell thinking: "Wish I'd gone with the Black Armband....Wish I'd gone with the Black Armband.....Wish I'd gone with the Black Armband"

LOL! That wasn't even me:-)